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There is no such thing as western civilisation 西方没有文明

已有 5020 次阅读2017-5-29 05:36 |个人分类:政治 法律| something, western, culture, called, single



There is no such thing as western civilisation

The values of liberty, tolerance and rational inquiry are not the birthright of a single culture. In fact, the very notion of something called ‘western culture’ is a modern invention


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Like many Englishmen who suffered from tuberculosis in the 19th century, Sir Edward Burnett Tylor went abroad on medical advice, seeking the drier air of warmer regions. Tylor came from a prosperous Quaker business family, so he had the resources for a long trip. In 1855, in his early 20s, he left for the New World, and, after befriending a Quaker archeologist he met on his travels, he ended up riding on horseback through the Mexican countryside, visiting Aztec ruins and dusty pueblos. Tylor was impressed by what he called “the evidence of an immense ancient population”. And his Mexican sojourn fired in him an enthusiasm for the study of faraway societies, ancient and modern, that lasted for the rest of his life. In 1871, he published his masterwork, Primitive Culture, which can lay claim to being the first work of modern anthropology.

Primitive Culture was, in some respects, a quarrel with another book that had “culture” in the title: Matthew Arnold’s Culture and Anarchy, a collection that had appeared just two years earlier. For Arnold, culture was the “pursuit of our total perfection by means of getting to know, on all the matters which most concern us, the best which has been thought and said in the world”. Arnold wasn’t interested in anything as narrow as class-bound connoisseurship: he had in mind a moral and aesthetic ideal, which found expression in art and literature and music and philosophy.

But Tylor thought that the word could mean something quite different, and in part for institutional reasons, he was able to see that it did. For Tylor was eventually appointed to direct the University Museum at Oxford, and then, in 1896, he was appointed to the first chair of anthropology there. It is to Tylor more than anyone else that we owe the idea that anthropology is the study of something called “culture”, which he defined as “that complex whole which includes knowledge, belief, arts, morals, law, customs, and any other capabilities and habits acquired by man as a member of society”. Civilisation, as Arnold understood it, was merely one of culture’s many modes.

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Nowadays, when people speak about culture, it is usually either Tylor’s or Arnold’s notion that they have in mind. The two concepts of culture are, in some respects, antagonistic. Arnold’s ideal was “the man of culture” and he would have considered “primitive culture” an oxymoron. Tylor thought it absurd to propose that a person could lack culture. Yet these contrasting notions of culture are locked together in our concept of western culture, which many people think defines the identity of modern western people. So let me try to untangle some of our confusions about the culture, both Tylorian and Arnoldian, of what we have come to call the west.

Someone asked Mahatma Gandhi what he thought of western civilisation, and he replied: “I think it would be a very good idea.” Like many of the best stories, alas, this one is probably apocryphal; but also like many of the best stories, it has survived because it has the flavour of truth. But my own response would have been very different: I think you should give up the very idea of western civilisation. It is at best the source of a great deal of confusion, at worst an obstacle to facing some of the great political challenges of our time. I hesitate to disagree with even the Gandhi of legend, but I believe western civilisation is not at all a good idea, and western culture is no improvement.

One reason for the confusions “western culture” spawns comes from confusions about the west. We have used the expression “the west” to do very different jobs. Rudyard Kipling, England’s poet of empire, wrote, “Oh, east is east and west is west, and never the twain shall meet”, contrasting Europe and Asia, but ignoring everywhere else. During the cold war, “the west” was one side of the iron curtain; “the east” its opposite and enemy. This usage, too, effectively disregarded most of the world. Often, in recent years, “the west” means the north Atlantic: Europe and her former colonies in North America. The opposite here is a non-western world in Africa, Asia and Latin America – now dubbed “the global south” – though many people in Latin America will claim a western inheritance, too. This way of talking notices the whole world, but lumps a whole lot of extremely different societies together, while delicately carving around Australians and New Zealanders and white South Africans, so that “western” here can look simply like a euphemism for white.

Of course, we often also talk today of the western world to contrast it not with the south but with the Muslim world. And Muslim thinkers sometimes speak in a parallel way, distinguishing between Dar al-Islam, the home of Islam, and Dar al-Kufr, the home of unbelief. I would like to explore this opposition further. Because European and American debates today about whether western culture is fundamentally Christian inherit a genealogy in which Christendom is replaced by Europe and then by the idea of the west.

This civilisational identity has roots going back nearly 1,300 years, then. But to tell the full story, we need to begin even earlier.


For the Greek historian Herodotus, writing in the fifth century BC, the world was divided into three parts. To the east was Asia, to the south was a continent he called Libya, and the rest was Europe. He knew that people and goods and ideas could travel easily between the continents: he himself travelled up the Nile as far as Aswan, and on both sides of the Hellespont, the traditional boundary between Europe and Asia. Herodotus admitted to being puzzled, in fact, as to “why the earth, which is one, has three names, all women’s”. Still, despite his puzzlement, these continents were for the Greeks and their Roman heirs the largest significant geographical divisions of the world.

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But here’s the important point: it would not have occurred to Herodotus to think that these three names corresponded to three kinds of people: Europeans, Asians, and Africans. He was born at Halicarnasus – Bodrum in modern Turkey. Yet being born in Asia Minor didn’t make him an Asian; it left him a Greek. And the Celts, in the far west of Europe, were much stranger to him than the Persians or the Egyptians, about whom he knew rather a lot. Herodotus only uses the word “European” as an adjective, never as a noun. For a millennium after his day, no one else spoke of Europeans as a people, either.

Then the geography Herodotus knew was radically reshaped by the rise of Islam, which burst out of Arabia in the seventh century, spreading with astonishing rapidity north and east and west. After the prophet’s death in 632, the Arabs managed in a mere 30 years to defeat the Persian empire that reached through central Asia as far as India, and to wrest provinces from Rome’s residue in Byzantium.

The Umayyad dynasty, which began in 661, pushed on west into north Africa and east into central Asia. In early 711, it sent an army across the straits of Gibraltar into Spain, which the Arabs called al-Andalus, where it attacked the Visigoths who had ruled much of the Roman province of Hispania for two centuries. Within seven years, most of the Iberian Peninsula was under Muslim rule; not until 1492, nearly 800 years later, was the whole peninsula under Christian sovereignty again.

The Muslim conquerors of Spain had not planned to stop at the Pyrenees, and they made regular attempts in the early years to move further north. But near Tours, in 732CE, Charles Martel, Charlemagne’s grandfather, defeated the forces of al-Andalus, and this decisive battle effectively ended the Arab attempts at the conquest of Frankish Europe. The 18th-century historian Edward Gibbon, overstating somewhat, observed that if the Arabs had won at Tours, they could have sailed up the Thames. “Perhaps,” he added, “the interpretation of the Koran would now be taught in the schools of Oxford, and her pulpits might demonstrate to a circumcised people the sanctity and truth of the revelation of Mahomet.”

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 The world according to Herodotus. Photograph: Interfoto/Alamy/Alamy

What matters for our purposes is that the first recorded use of a word for Europeans as a kind of person, so far as I know, comes out of this history of conflict. In a Latin chronicle, written in 754 in Spain, the author refers to the victors of the Battle of Tours as “Europenses”, Europeans. So, simply put, the very idea of a “European” was first used to contrast Christians and Muslims. (Even this, however, is a bit of a simplification. In the middle of the eighth century much of Europe was not yet Christian.)

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Now, nobody in medieval Europe would have used the word “western” for that job. For one thing, the coast of Morocco, home of the Moors, stretches west of Ireland. For another, there were Muslim rulers in the Iberian Peninsula – part of the continent that Herodotus called Europe – until nearly the 16th century. The natural contrast was not between Islam and the west, but between Christendom and Dar al‑Islam, each of which regarded the other as infidels, defined by their unbelief.

Starting in the late 14th century, the Turks who created the Ottoman empire gradually extended their rule into parts of Europe: Bulgaria, Greece, the Balkans, and Hungary. Only in 1529, with the defeat of Suleiman the Magnificent’s army at Vienna, did the reconquest of eastern Europe begin. It was a slow process. It wasn’t until 1699 that the Ottomans finally lost their Hungarian possessions; Greece became independent only in the early 19th century, Bulgaria even later.

We have, then, a clear sense of Christian Europe – Christendom – defining itself through opposition. And yet the move from “Christendom” to “western culture” isn’t straightforward.

For one thing, the educated classes of Christian Europe took many of their ideas from the pagan societies that preceded them. At the end of the 12th century, Chrétien de Troyes, born a couple of hundred kilometres south-west of Paris, celebrated these earlier roots: “Greece once had the greatest reputation for chivalry and learning,” he wrote. “Then chivalry went to Rome, and so did all of learning, which now has come to France.”

The idea that the best of the culture of Greece was passed by way of Rome into western Europe gradually became, in the middle ages, a commonplace. In fact this process had a name. It was called the “translatio studii”: the transfer of learning. And it was an astonishingly persistent idea. More than six centuries later, Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, the great German philosopher, told the students of the high school he ran in Nuremberg: “The foundation of higher study must be and remain Greek literature in the first place, Roman in the second.”

So from the late middle ages until now, people have thought of the best in the culture of Greece and Rome as a civilisational inheritance, passed on like a precious golden nugget, dug out of the earth by the Greeks, transferred, when the Roman empire conquered them, to Rome. Partitioned between the Flemish and Florentine courts and the Venetian Republic in the Renaissance, its fragments passed through cities such as Avignon, Paris, Amsterdam, Weimar, Edinburgh and London, and were finally reunited – pieced together like the broken shards of a Grecian urn – in the academies of Europe and the United States.


There are many ways of embellishing the story of the golden nugget. But they all face a historical difficulty; if, that is, you want to make the golden nugget the core of a civilisation opposed to Islam. Because the classical inheritance it identifies was shared with Muslim learning. In Baghdad of the ninth century Abbasid caliphate, the palace library featured the works of Plato and Aristotle, Pythagoras and Euclid, translated into Arabic. In the centuries that Petrarch called the Dark Ages, when Christian Europe made little contribution to the study of Greek classical philosophy, and many of the texts were lost, these works were preserved by Muslim scholars. Much of our modern understanding of classical philosophy among the ancient Greeks we have only because those texts were recovered by European scholars in the Renaissance from the Arabs.

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In the mind of its Christian chronicler, as we saw, the battle of Tours pitted Europeans against Islam; but the Muslims of al-Andalus, bellicose as they were, did not think that fighting for territory meant that you could not share ideas. By the end of the first millennium, the cities of the Caliphate of Cordoba were marked by the cohabitation of Jews, Christians, and Muslims, of Berbers, Visigoths, Slavs and countless others.

There were no recognised rabbis or Muslim scholars at the court of Charlemagne; in the cities of al-Andalus there were bishops and synagogues. Racemondo, Catholic bishop of Elvira, was Cordoba’s ambassador to the courts of the Byzantine and the Holy Roman empires. Hasdai ibn Shaprut, leader of Cordoba’s Jewish community in the middle of the 10th century, was not only a great medical scholar, he was the chairman of the Caliph’s medical council; and when the Emperor Constantine in Byzantium sent the Caliph a copy of Dioscorides’s De Materia Medica, he took up Ibn Shaprut’s suggestion to have it translated into Arabic, and Cordoba became one of the great centres of medical knowledge in Europe. The translation into Latin of the works of Ibn Rushd, born in Cordoba in the 12th century, began the European rediscovery of Aristotle. He was known in Latin as Averroes, or more commonly just as “The Commentator”, because of his commentaries on Aristotle. So the classical traditions that are meant to distinguish western civilisation from the inheritors of the caliphates are actually a point of kinship with them.

But the golden-nugget story was bound to be beset by difficulties. It imagines western culture as the expression of an essence – a something – which has been passed from hand to hand on its historic journey. The pitfalls of this sort of essentialism are evident in a wide range of cases. Whether you are discussing religion, nationality, race or culture, people have supposed that an identity that survives through time and space must be propelled by some potent common essence. But that is simply a mistake. What was England like in the days of Chaucer, father of English literature, who died more than 600 years ago? Take whatever you think was distinctive of it, whatever combination of customs, ideas, and material things that made England characteristically English then. Whatever you choose to distinguish Englishness now, it isn’t going to be that. Rather, as time rolls on, each generation inherits the label from an earlier one; and, in each generation, the label comes with a legacy. But as the legacies are lost or exchanged for other treasures, the label keeps moving on. And so, when some of those in one generation move from the territory to which English identity was once tied – move, for example, to a New England – the label can even travel beyond the territory. Identities can be held together by narratives, in short, without essences. You don’t get to be called “English” because there’s an essence that this label follows; you’re English because our rules determine that you are entitled to the label by being somehow connected with a place called England.

So how did the people of the north Atlantic, and some of their kin around the world, get connected to a realm we call the west, and gain an identity as participants in something called western culture?

James Gillray’s 1805 cartoon, The Plumb Pudding in Danger, depicts prime minister William Pitt and Napoleon Bonaparte carving up the world
 James Gillray’s 1805 cartoon, The Plumb Pudding in Danger, depicts prime minister William Pitt and Napoleon Bonaparte carving up the world Photograph: Rischgitz/Getty Images

It will help to recognise that the term “western culture” is surprisingly modern – more recent certainly than the phonograph. Tylor never spoke of it. And indeed he had no reason to, since he was profoundly aware of the internal cultural diversity even of his own country. In 1871 he reported evidence of witchcraft in rural Somerset. A blast of wind in a pub had blown some roasted onions stabbed with pins out of the chimney. “One,” Tylor wrote, “had on it the name of a brother magistrate of mine, whom the wizard, who was the alehouse-keeper, held in particular hatred ... and whom apparently he designed to get rid of by stabbing and roasting an onion representing him.” Primitive culture, indeed.

So the very idea of the “west,” to name a heritage and object of study, doesn’t really emerge until the 1890s, during a heated era of imperialism, and gains broader currency only in the 20th century. When, around the time of the first world war, Oswald Spengler wrote the influential book translated as The Decline of the West – a book that introduced many readers to the concept – he scoffed at the notion that there were continuities between western culture and the classical world. During a visit to the Balkans in the late 1930s, the writer and journalist Rebecca West recounted a visitor’s sense that “it’s uncomfortably recent, the blow that would have smashed the whole of our western culture”. The “recent blow” in question was the Turkish siege of Vienna in 1683.

If the notion of Christendom was an artefact of a prolonged military struggle against Muslim forces, our modern concept of western culture largely took its present shape during the cold war. In the chill of battle, we forged a grand narrative about Athenian democracy, the Magna Carta, Copernican revolution, and so on. Plato to Nato. Western culture was, at its core, individualistic and democratic and liberty-minded and tolerant and progressive and rational and scientific. Never mind that pre-modern Europe was none of these things, and that until the past century democracy was the exception in Europe – something that few stalwarts of western thought had anything good to say about. The idea that tolerance was constitutive of something called western culture would have surprised Edward Burnett Tylor, who, as a Quaker, had been barred from attending England’s great universities. To be blunt: if western culture were real, we wouldn’t spend so much time talking it up.

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Of course, once western culture could be a term of praise, it was bound to become a term of dispraise, too. Critics of western culture, producing a photonegative emphasising slavery, subjugation, racism, militarism, and genocide, were committed to the very same essentialism, even if they see a nugget not of gold but of arsenic.

Talk of “western culture” has had a larger implausibility to overcome. It places, at the heart of identity, all manner of exalted intellectual and artistic achievements – philosophy, literature, art, music; the things Arnold prized and humanists study. But if western culture was there in Troyes in the late 12th century when Chrétien was alive, it had little to do with the lives of most of his fellow citizens, who did not know Latin or Greek, and had never heard of Plato. Today the classical heritage plays no greater role in the everyday lives of most Americans or Britons. Are these Arnoldian achievements that hold us together? Of course not. What holds us together, surely, is Tylor’s broad sense of culture: our customs of dress and greeting, the habits of behaviour that shape relations between men and women, parents and children, cops and civilians, shop assistants and consumers. Intellectuals like me have a tendency to suppose that the things we care about are the most important things. I don’t say they don’t matter. But they matter less than the story of the golden nugget suggests.

So how have we bridged the chasm here? How have we managed to tell ourselves that we are rightful inheritors of Plato, Aquinas, and Kant, when the stuff of our existence is more Beyoncé and Burger King? Well, by fusing the Tylorian picture and the Arnoldian one, the realm of the everyday and the realm of the ideal. And the key to this was something that was already present in Tylor’s work. Remember his famous definition: it began with culture as “that complex whole”. What you’re hearing is something we can call organicism. A vision of culture not as a loose assemblage of disparate fragments but as an organic unity, each component, like the organs in a body, carefully adapted to occupy a particular place, each part essential to the functioning of the whole. The Eurovision song contest, the cutouts of Matisse, the dialogues of Plato are all parts of a larger whole. As such, each is a holding in your cultural library, so to speak, even if you have never personally checked it out. Even if it isn’t your jam, it is still your heritage and possession. Organicism explained how our everyday selves could be dusted with gold.

Now, there are organic wholes in our cultural life: the music, the words, the set-design, the dance of an opera fit and are meant to fit together. It is, in the word Wagner invented, a Gesamtkunstwerk, a total work of art. But there isn’t one great big whole called culture that organically unites all these parts. Spain, in the heart of “the west,” resisted liberal democracy for two generations after it took off in India and Japan in “the east,” the home of Oriental despotism. Jefferson’s cultural inheritance – Athenian liberty, Anglo-Saxon freedom – did not preserve the United States from creating a slave republic. At the same time, Franz Kafka and Miles Davis can live together as easily – perhaps even more easily – than Kafka and his fellow Austro-Hungarian Johann Strauss. You will find hip-hop in the streets of Tokyo. The same is true in cuisine: Britons once swapped their fish and chips for chicken tikka masala, now, I gather, they’re all having a cheeky Nando’s.

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Once we abandon organicism, we can take up the more cosmopolitan picture in which every element of culture, from philosophy or cuisine to the style of bodily movement, is separable in principle from all the others – you really can walk and talk like an African-American and think with Matthew Arnold and Immanuel Kant, as well as with Martin Luther King and Miles Davis. No Muslim essence stops the inhabitants of Dar al-Islam from taking up anything from western civilisation, including Christianity or democracy. No western essence is there to stop a New Yorker of any ancestry taking up Islam.

The stories we tell that connect Plato or Aristotle or Cicero or Saint Augustine to contemporary culture in the north Atlantic world have some truth in them, of course. We have self-conscious traditions of scholarship and argumentation. The delusion is to think that it suffices that we have access to these values, as if they are tracks on a Spotify playlist we have never quite listened to. If these thinkers are part of our Arnoldian culture, there is no guarantee that what is best in them will continue to mean something to the children of those who now look back to them, any more than the centrality of Aristotle to Muslim thought for hundreds of years guarantees him an important place in modern Muslim cultures.

Values aren’t a birthright: you need to keep caring about them. Living in the west, however you define it, being western, provides no guarantee that you will care about western civilisation. The values European humanists like to espouse belong just as easily to an African or an Asian who takes them up with enthusiasm as to a European. By that very logic, of course, they do not belong to a European who has not taken the trouble to understand and absorb them. The same, of course, is true in the other direction. The story of the golden nugget suggests that we cannot help caring about the traditions of “the west” because they are ours: in fact, the opposite is true. They are only ours if we care about them. A culture of liberty, tolerance, and rational inquiry: that would be a good idea. But these values represent choices to make, not tracks laid down by a western destiny.

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In the year of Edward Burnett Tylor’s death, what we have been taught to call western civilisation stumbled into a death match with itself: the Allies and the Great Central Powers hurled bodies at each other, marching young men to their deaths in order to “defend civilisation”. The blood-soaked fields and gas-poisoned trenches would have shocked Tylor’s evolutionist, progressivist hopes, and confirmed Arnold’s worst fears about what civilisation really meant. Arnold and Tylor would have agreed, at least, on this: culture isn’t a box to check on the questionnaire of humanity; it is a process you join, a life lived with others.

Culture – like religion and nation and race – provides a source of identity for contemporary human beings. And, like all three, it can become a form of confinement, conceptual mistakes underwriting moral ones. Yet all of them can also give contours to our freedom. Social identities connect the small scale where we live our lives alongside our kith and kin with larger movements, causes, and concerns. They can make a wider world intelligible, alive, and urgent. They can expand our horizons to communities larger than the ones we personally inhabit. But our lives must make sense, too, at the largest of all scales. We live in an era in which our actions, in the realm of ideology as in the realm of technology, increasingly have global effects. When it comes to the compass of our concern and compassion, humanity as a whole is not too broad a horizon.

We live with seven billion fellow humans on a small, warming planet. The cosmopolitan impulse that draws on our common humanity is no longer a luxury; it has become a necessity. And in encapsulating that creed I can draw on a frequent presence in courses in western civilisation, because I don’t think I can improve on the formulation of the dramatist Terence: a former slave from Roman Africa, a Latin interpreter of Greek comedies, a writer from classical Europe who called himself Terence the African. He once wrote, “Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.” “I am human, I think nothing human alien to me.” Now there’s an identity worth holding on to.

 This is an edited version of Kwame Anthony Appiah’s BBC Reith lecture, Culture, the fourth part of the series Mistaken Identities, which is available on the Radio 4 website

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不管你喜不喜欢 “西方文化”或许根本就不存在


自由、宽容和理性探究的价值并非某个单一文化与生俱来的事物。事实上,“西方文化”这一观念是近代的发明。

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作者Kwame Anthony Appiah 是纽约大学的哲学、法学教授,生于英国,是一位哲学家和文化理论家,著有《In My Father's House》一书。

和19世纪许多患有肺结核的英国人一样,爱德华·伯内特·泰勒爵士在医生的建议下出国疗养,寻找温暖地带的干燥空气。泰勒出生于一个殷实的教友派商人家庭,所以他负担得起长途旅行。1855年,二十岁出头的泰勒前往新大陆,在旅途中结识了一位教友派考古学家之后,他骑着马游览墨西哥的乡村地区,造访阿兹特克帝国遗址和灰尘扑扑的印第安人村落。那些“密集古代人口的证据”给泰勒留下了深刻的印象。在墨西哥的停留点燃了他心中研究古代和现代遥远社会的激情,这种激情持续了一生。1871年他发表了巨著《原始文化》,这本书称得上是现代人类学的第一本著作。

从某些方面来讲,《原始文化》和另一本名字中带有“文化”二字的书形成了争论:马修·阿诺德两年前刚刚出版的文集《文化与无政府状态》。对阿诺德而言,文化是“通过认识人类在最切身的各项事务上所作出的最好的思考和言说,来追求我们的全面完美”。阿诺德感兴趣的不是仅限于特定阶级的鉴赏活动:他心中所想的是一种道德和审美的理想,这种理想通过艺术、文学、音乐和哲学得以表达。

然而泰勒却认为文化一词可以表示相当不同的东西,并且由于所在机构的原因,他确实得以推广这种理解。泰勒曾被任命为牛津大学博物馆的负责人,随后在1896年被任命为牛津大学的首位人类学教授。将人类学理解为对某种叫做“文化”的东西的研究,这个观念受泰勒的影响最深。泰勒将文化定义为“一个复杂的整体,包括知识,信仰,艺术,道德,法律,风俗,以及作为社会成员的人所习得的所有其他能力和习惯”。阿诺德所理解的文明,仅仅是文化的多种形态之一。

今日人们谈到文化时,通常他们指的要么是泰勒的观念,要么是阿诺德的观念。这两种文化概念在某些方面是相对立的。阿诺德的理想是“有文化之人”,他或许会认为“原始文化”这个词本身就自相矛盾。泰勒则认为说一个人缺乏文化是很荒谬的。然而这两种相异的文化观念在我们对西方文化的理解里是纠缠在一起的,许多人都认为西方文化定义了现代西方人的身份。那么就让我来试着澄清我们在西方文化里的混淆,这里面既有泰勒的观念,也有阿诺德的观念。

有人曾问过甘地对西方文明(western civilisation,既可指西方文明,也可以指西方的文明化——译著)的看法,他回答说:“我认为这(西方的文明化)是个好主意。”可惜,正如许多绝佳的故事一样,这可能是个编造的故事;但跟那些绝佳故事一样,它能够流传至今说明它包含着些许真理。但是我的答案就大不一样了:我认为应该放弃西方文明这个观念本身。这种说法在最好的情况下也只不过造成了大量的混淆,而在最坏的情况下它会对我们直面当今时代的政治难题造成障碍。我不太愿意和传奇的甘地意见相左,但我认为西方文明完全不是个好主意,而西方文化这种说法也并不见得更好。

“西方文化”造成混淆的原因之一来源于对西方这个概念的混淆。我们使用“西方”这个词来指代各种不同的东西。英国的帝国诗人拉迪亚德·吉卜林曾写道:“东是东来西是西,两者永远要分离”,将欧洲和亚洲对比起来,而无视了所有其他地方。在冷战期间,“西方”指的是铁幕的这一边;“东方”则是对立的那一边,是敌人。这种用法实际上也忽略了世界的大部分地区。近年来,“西方”则常常指的是北大西洋地区:欧洲和她以前在北美的殖民地。这里的对立面是非洲,亚洲和拉丁美洲等非西方地区——现在被称为“全球南部”——尽管许多拉美人也宣称自己继承有西方的遗产。这种说法涵盖了整个世界,但是把很多极不相同的社会混在了一起,同时又仔细地把新西兰,澳大利亚和白人南非划分出来,弄得“西方”好像只不过是白人的委婉说法。

当然,我们如今也会将西方世界与穆斯林世界相比较,而不是南半球。穆斯林思想家有时候也有类似的说法,将伊斯兰之地(Dar al-Islam)和不信者之地(Dar al-Kufr)区分开来。我想进一步探讨一下这种对立。因为当今欧美关于西方文化是否从根本来说上一种基督教文化的讨论,继承了这样一条谱系:先是欧洲取代了基督教世界,随后西方的概念取代了欧洲。

如此说来这种文明认同可以追溯到近1300年前。但是为了讲述故事的全部,我们需要回到更早的时期。

对于公元前5世纪的希腊历史学家希罗多德而言,世界划分为三个部分。东边是亚洲,南边是他称为利比亚的大陆,剩下的地方则是欧洲。他知道人、物和思想可以轻松地在大陆之间交流:他本人曾经沿着尼罗河而上旅行到阿斯旺,在传统的欧亚分界之处Hellespont(即今日的达达尼尔海峡)两边都留下了足迹。希罗多德承认自己感到困惑,“为什么一个地球会有三个名字,而且都是女性名字?”尽管他很困惑,这些大陆仍然是古希腊人及继承希腊文明的罗马人心目中最重大的世界地理划分。

重要之处在于:希罗多德并没有认为这三个地理名字对应着三种人类:欧洲人,亚洲人和非洲人。他出生于哈利卡纳苏斯(Halicarnasus),即今日土耳其的博德鲁姆。然而出生于小亚细亚并没有让他成为亚洲人,他是希腊人。对他而言,欧洲遥远西部的凯尔特人比波斯人或者埃及人更为陌生,对于后两者他知之甚多。希罗多德使用“European”一词时只将它作为形容词,从未用作名词。在他之后一千年,仍然没有人用“European”指示一类人。

随后,希罗多德熟悉的地理划分被崛起的伊斯兰教深深地重塑了。伊斯兰教于7世纪诞生于阿拉伯,随后以惊人的速度向北、向东和向西扩散。在先知于632年去世之后,阿拉伯人仅用了30年时间,就打败了横跨中亚直抵印度的波斯帝国,并且从罗马余烬拜占庭帝国那里攫取了数个行省。

始于公元661年的伍麦叶王朝,向西扩张到北非,向东扩张到中亚。公元711年,伍麦叶王朝派遣军队越过直布罗陀海峡进入西班牙,阿拉伯人称之为安达卢斯(al-Andalus)的地方,并攻击了西哥特人,后者已经统治罗马帝国的西班牙行省长达两个世纪。七年之后,伊比利亚半岛大部分都归于穆斯林统治之下;直到近800年之后的1492年,整个伊比利亚半岛才重归基督教君权之下。

征服西班牙的穆斯林并未止步于比利牛斯山,早年间他们时常想要向北更进一步。但是公元732年,在法国图尔附近,查理曼大帝的祖父查理·马特击败了安达卢斯的军队,这一决定性的胜利结束了阿拉伯人征服法兰克人欧洲的企图。18世纪的历史学家爱德华·吉本略带夸张地说,如果阿拉伯人在图尔获胜,他们有可能会扬帆进入泰晤士河。他说:“或许现在牛津各个学院讲授的是古兰经的解读,人们在布道坛上向行过割礼的人证明穆罕默德启示的神圣和真实。”

希罗多德心目中的世界 图片来源:Interfoto/Alamy/Alamy

对于我们的目的来说重要的是,首次有记载地使用某个词来称呼作为一类人的欧洲人,就我所知,来源于这种冲突的历史。在一本754年写于西班牙的编年史里,作者将图尔战役的胜利者称为“Europenses”,即欧洲人。所以简单来讲,“欧洲人”这一观念最初是用来将基督徒和穆斯林作对比的。(即使这样说也有点过于简化了。8世纪中期时欧洲很多地区并未信仰基督教)。

中世纪欧洲没有人会用“西方”来做这种对比。其一,摩尔人的家乡摩洛哥海岸向西延伸到爱尔兰。其二,伊比利亚半岛则由穆斯林统治——这一区域被希罗多德称为欧洲的一部分——直到16世纪。自然的对比不是西方和伊斯兰,而是基督教世界和伊斯兰世界,双方都视对方为异教徒,因为对方不信自己的神。

从14世纪晚期开始,建立了奥斯曼帝国的土耳其人逐渐将其统治扩展到欧洲部分:保加利亚,希腊,巴尔干半岛和匈牙利。直到1529年苏莱曼大帝的军队在维也纳被打败之后,重新征服东欧的行动才开始。这一过程很缓慢。直到1699年奥斯曼帝国才失去匈牙利;希腊到19世纪初期才获得独立,保加利亚就更晚了。

我们现在可以清楚地看到基督教欧洲——基督教世界——通过敌对定义自身。然而从“基督教世界”到“西方文化”的转变却不是那么直截了当。

首先,基督教欧洲受过教育的阶层从此前的异教社会那里吸收了很多思想。12世纪末期,出生于巴黎西南边数百公里的特鲁瓦的克雷蒂安(Chrétien de Troyes)如此赞美这些文化根源:“希腊人的勇武和学识曾经最为著名,”他写道,“后来勇武传到了罗马,而学识现在则传到了法兰西。”

古希腊文化的精华从罗马传到西欧的观念在中世纪逐渐变成常识。事实上这一过程有个专门的名称,叫做“translatio studii”(学识的传递)。这种观念极其坚固。六个世纪以后,伟大的德国哲学家格奥尔格·威廉·弗里德里希·黑格尔告诉他所执掌的纽伦堡高中的学生:“高等学习的基础必须是且一直是:首先希腊文献,随后罗马文献。”

因而从中世纪晚期开始到现在,人们将古希腊罗马文化的精华视为一种文明遗产,像珍贵的金块一样世代传递。这块金子先是由古希腊人从泥土里挖出来,罗马帝国征服希腊人之后金块转移到罗马人手里。文艺复兴时期,这块金子被弗兰德斯和佛罗伦萨的宫廷及威尼斯共和国所分割,其碎块传递到了阿维尼翁,巴黎,阿姆斯特丹,魏玛,爱丁堡和伦敦等城市,最终在欧洲和美国的学术界重新汇集——就像粘合古希腊陶瓮的碎片一样。

有很多种方法可以美化这个金块的故事。但是如果要将这块金子作为对立于伊斯兰的西方文明的核心的话,那它会面临很多历史难题,因为这种文明所认同的古典遗产是和穆斯林学术共享的。在9世纪阿拔斯王朝的巴格达,宫廷图书馆里藏有柏拉图,亚里士多德,毕达哥拉斯和欧几里得的著作,都翻译成了阿拉伯语。在彼得拉克称之为黑暗时期的中世纪,基督教欧洲对古希腊哲学经典的研究几无贡献,许多文本都已遗失,而穆斯林学者则将这些著作保存了下来。我们现如今对希腊古典哲学的理解,很大一部分要归功于文艺复兴时期欧洲学者从阿拉伯人那里发现的哲学文本。

正如我们所见,在基督教编年史家看来,图尔战役将欧洲人与伊斯兰对立起来;然而安达卢斯的穆斯林虽然也很好战,但是他们并不认为争夺领土意味着彼此不能分享思想。在公元第一个千年末期的科多瓦哈里发(Caliphate of Cordoba)里,犹太教徒,基督教徒和穆斯林,柏柏尔人,西哥特人,斯拉夫人等各类人群共同生活在一起。

在查理曼大帝的宫廷里找不到拉比或穆斯林学者;但是在安达卢斯的城市里则能看到主教和犹太教堂。埃尔维拉的天主教主教拉齐蒙多(Racemondo),是卡多瓦哈里发驻拜占庭和神圣罗马帝国宫廷的大使。10世纪中期卡多瓦哈里发的犹太人领袖沙普鲁特(Hasdai Ibn Shaprut),不仅是一名伟大的医学学者,也是朝廷医学委员会的主席;当拜占庭的康斯坦丁大帝赠给哈利发一本迪奥斯科里季斯的《药物学》之后,哈利发接受了沙普鲁特的建议,将其翻译成阿拉伯文,随后卡多瓦成为了欧洲医学知识的中心之一。欧洲重新发现亚里士多德的序幕,始于将伊本-鲁世德(Ibn Rushd)著作翻译成拉丁文。伊本-鲁世德出生于12世纪的卡多瓦,在拉丁文中名叫做阿威罗伊,但因为他对亚里士多德著作的评注工作,人们常常径直称他为“评注者”。本来古典传统是用来区分西方文明和哈利发王国继承者的,但这种古典传统实际上正是两者之间的亲缘之处。

金块叙事注定要面临很多难题。它将西方文化想像成某种本质的表达,某种在历史旅程中亲手相传的东西。这种本质主义的隐患在很多情况里都很显见。无论是谈论宗教,民族,种族或文化,人们总是假定某种在时空中延续的同一性一定是由一种强有力的共同本质所推动的。但这是错误的。英国文学之父乔叟死于600多年前,他那个时代的英国是什么样子的?你可以举出任何你认为是那个时代特色的东西,任何可以代表当时英国特点的风俗,思想和物质的组合。这些东西和你认为可以代表今日英国特性的事物肯定不一样。不如说,随着时间的流逝,每一代人都从上一代人那里继承了一个标签;在每一代人那里,又有随着这个标签而来的遗产。然而当遗产丢失或者被用来交换其他的珍贵事物时,标签却继续流传。因而,当某一代人开始从英国认同所附属的地域向外迁移时——比如迁到新英格兰地区——这种标签甚至能够超越地域。认同可以由叙事维系,简单来说,它不需要本质。你被称为英国人,不是因为英国人这个标签有什么本质特征,而是因为我们的规则决定了你有资格拥有这个标签,因为你通过某种方式和一个叫英格兰的地方有关联。

那么北大西洋地区的人,以及他们在世界各地的某些近亲,是如何与我们称之为西方的领域相联系,并且获得了西方文化参与者的身份?


 James Gillray在1805年创作的漫画,描绘了英国首相威廉·皮特和拿破仑瓜分世界的景象

“西方文化”是一个非常现代的词汇——肯定比色情文学的出现还要晚,认识到这一点会有所助益。泰勒从未提到这个词,而且他确实没有理由提到它,因为他深刻地意识到,即使在自己的国家内部也存在着多样的文化。1871年他记述了萨默赛特农村地区的一起巫术案。当时在某个酒吧里一阵狂风把一颗烤洋葱从烟囱里刮了出来,洋葱上面扎满了针。他写道:“这个巫师,也就是酒吧的老板,在洋葱上写下了我一名法官兄弟的姓名,他特别恨我的兄弟……很显然,他计划用针扎烤炙这个象征我兄弟的洋葱的方式来除掉他。”这可真是原始文化。

因而作为一种遗产和研究对象的“西方”观念,直到1890年代才真正出现,那正是帝国主义如日中天的时代,并且要到了20世纪这一观念才得到更广泛的接受。一战前后,奥斯瓦尔德·斯宾格勒写作了影响深远的《西方的没落》一书,许多读者通过这本书才认识到西方概念。他在书中嘲笑了那种认为在古典世界和西方文化之间存在连续性的观点。作家兼记者丽贝卡.维斯特1930年代造访巴尔干地区的时候,讲述了自己作为游客的感受;“那差点摧毁整个西方文明的打击是很晚近的,晚近地令人不安。”她说的“晚近的打击”指的是1683年土耳其对维也纳的围攻。

如果说基督教世界的观念是在和穆斯林力量的长期军事斗争中炮制出来的,那么我们当代的西方文明概念则是在冷战中形成现有形态的。在冷峻的斗争中,我们制造了一个关于雅典民主,大宪章,哥白尼革命等事件的宏大叙事。从柏拉图到北约。西方文化从核心上来讲是个人主义的,民主的,看重自由的,包容的,进步的,理性的,科学的。尽管前现代的欧洲一点也没有这些特点,尽管民主直到上个世纪以前在欧洲仍是例外——很少有西方思想大家认为民主有什么好的——但是我们不用管这些。认为包容是某种叫做西方文化的东西里构成性的一部分,这个想法可能会让泰勒惊讶,因为作为教友派信徒,他曾被禁止进入英国著名大学学习。直白地说:如果西方文化是真的,我们也不会在这儿花时间讨论它了。

当然,如果西方文化是个受赞誉的词,那么它也必然会受到责难。批评者强调奴隶制,征服,种族主义,军国主义和种族灭绝,像负片胶卷一样描述了西方文明的阴暗面。但是他们也同样陷入了本质主义,尽管他们看到的本质不是金块,而是砒霜。

谈论“西方文明”还有一个更大的疑点需要克服。它把所有崇高的智力和艺术成就置于认同的核心:哲学,文学,艺术,音乐;那些阿诺德赞扬的东西,那些人文学者研究的东西。然而即使西方文化确实存在于12世纪晚期克雷蒂安生活的特鲁瓦,它也和克雷蒂安的大部分同胞没什么关系。这些人不通希腊文或者拉丁语,也从未听说过柏拉图。今时今日,古典遗产在大多数美国人和英国人的生活中发挥的作用并不见得更大。是阿诺德心中那些文化成就将我们联结在一起的吗?当然不是。维系我们的当然是泰勒那种广义的文化:我们的着装和打招呼的习惯,塑造男女关系,亲子关系,警民关系,店员和顾客关系的行为习惯。知识分子,例如我,总是认为自己在意的事情是最重要的事情。我不是说它们不重要,它们只是没有金块故事里所讲的那么重要。

那么我们是怎样弥合这种裂痕的呢?当我们赖以生存的东西是碧昂斯和汉堡王时,我们又如何自认是柏拉图,阿奎那和康德的正统继承人的?是通过将泰勒和阿诺德的观念,将日常生活的领域和理念的领域融合在一起。这种做法的关键在泰勒的作品里已经有所阐述。记住他的著名定义:文化首先是“复杂的整体”。这就是我们所谓的“有机论”,它将文化视为一个有机的整体,而不是相异部分的松散聚集。正如身体的器官一样,每一个组成部分都通过细致的调整而占据一个特定的位置,每一个部分对于整体发挥功能都是不可或缺的。欧洲电视网歌唱大赛,马蒂斯的剪裁艺术,柏拉图的对话录都是一个更大整体的一部分。可以说,每一个都是你的文化图书馆里的藏书,即使你从来没有翻阅过。尽管有些东西并不引起你的兴趣,它仍然是你继承的遗产和财富。有机论可以解释我们的日常自我可以通过何种方式被铺上金光。

在我们的文化生活中确实存在有机整体:歌剧的音乐,台词,舞台设计和舞步是协调的,而且是有意协调起来的。用瓦格纳的话来说,歌剧是一种整体艺术。但是没有一个大全的文化整体能够将所有的部分有机统一起来。位于“西方”中心的西班牙,在“东方”——专制主义的故乡——的印度和日本采取自由民主制度两代人之后,仍然负隅顽抗。杰斐逊的文化继承——雅典的自由,盎格鲁-萨克逊的自由——并未阻止美国建立起一个奴隶共和国。与此同时,弗兰茨·卡夫卡可以很容易地和迈尔斯·戴维斯共处,正如他很容易和奥匈帝国的同胞约翰·施特劳斯共处一样,甚至更容易。你可以在东京街头听到嘻哈音乐。在饮食上也是如此:英国人曾经抛弃了炸鱼薯条而转投咖喱鸡,据我所知,他们现在全都在狂放的Nando's餐馆里用餐。

一旦抛弃了有机论,我们就能采取一种更加世界主义的图景:每一种文化元素,从哲学或饮食到身体动作的风格,在理论上都可以和其余所有部分相分离。你可以像非洲裔美国人那样说话和走路,同时又能思考马修·阿诺德和伊曼纽尔·康德思考的问题,正如你也可以思考马丁·路德·金和迈尔斯·戴维斯一样。没有什么穆斯林的本质会阻止伊斯兰之地的居民采用西方文明中的事物,包括基督教或民主。同理,不管一个纽约人的祖先是哪里人,也并不存在某种西方文明的本质阻止他信仰伊斯兰教。

我们讲述的故事,那个将柏拉图或亚里士多德或西塞罗或圣奥古斯汀与北大西洋的当代文化串联在一起的故事,当然是包含一些真实成分的。我们有自觉研究和论证的传统。但如果认为我们能够接触到这些价值就足够了,好像它们是Spotify歌单上我们不怎么听的歌曲,这就是错觉了。即使这些思想家是我们阿诺德式文化的一部分,也并不能保证他们的思想精华就能够继续对今日重视他们的人的后代产生意义。亚里士多德曾经占据穆斯林思想的中心位置长达数百年,这并未保证他在当代穆斯林文化中占有重要位置。

价值并非与生俱来,它需要持续的关照。不管你如何定义西方,生活在西方并不保证你会关心西方文明。欧洲人文主义者喜欢将其与欧洲人挂钩的那些价值,同样也可以属于热情吸收这些价值的非洲人或亚洲人。按照同样的逻辑,这些价值不属于那些不愿意理解并吸收它们的欧洲人。从别的方面来说,这一点当然也是真实的。金块的故事说我们情不自禁地关心“西方”传统,因为那是我们的传统:事实上反过来说才是对的。只有当我们关心这些价值时它们才属于我们。自由,包容和理性探究的文化当然是个好主意,但是这些价值代表的是需要做出的选择,而不是由西方命运所规定的路径。

爱德华·伯内特·泰勒去世的那一年,西方文明陷入和自己的死亡博弈之中:协约国和中欧强国相互屠戮,为了“保卫文明”将年轻人驱赶上死路。浸满鲜血的战场和被毒气环绕的战壕会让满怀进化和进步希望的泰勒震惊,而且证实了阿诺德关于文明真实含义的最大恐惧。阿诺德和泰勒至少会同意这一点:文化不是人性问卷上的一个个勾选项;文化是人在其中的过程,是和他人共存的生活。

文化,如同宗教,民族和种族一样,为当代人提供一种认同资源。正如后三者一样,文化也可能变成一种限制,变成一种概念错误进而导致道德错误。然而所有这些东西也描绘出了我们的自由的轮廓。社会认同将我们与亲友生活的小圈子同更广阔的运动,事业和关注连接了起来。它们让更为广阔的世界变得可以理解,充满生机,而且迫切。它们将我们的社群范围拓展到生活圈子之外。然而我们的生活即使在最广的范围里也必须要有意义。在我们生活的时代里,意识形态领域和技术领域的行动越来越具有全球性的后果。当我们在锚定自己的关注和同情对象时,人类整体并非一个过大的范围。

我们和70亿人类同胞共同生活在一个小小的,正在变暖的地球上。植根于我们共同人性之中的世界主义冲动不再是一种奢侈,而是必需之物。为了简述这种信念,我将要引用一句在西方文明的进程中时常出现的话,因为我自觉找不到比戏剧家特伦斯的表达更好的说法了:特伦斯曾经是罗马统治的非洲地区的奴隶,是希腊喜剧的拉丁文阐释者,是古典欧洲的一名作家,他自称非洲人特伦斯。他曾经写道:“我是人,任何属人的东西都不与我相异。”这种认同值得我们坚守。

(翻译:李孟林)

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剪烛看吴钩

不要把现代文明当做西方文明去抵制。

Knight.wxzB9TM

《东方学》的研究方法可以作为参考,不同时期对西方,东方的定义有差异,中国有段时间还把印度波斯等当做西方。看标题我以为是在质疑希腊文明,不过据说希腊文明有可能是欧洲人后期从波斯挪用过来的说法,那么西方文明才真的不存在呢。

Mr.Chen.wxxbOT9

不管东方西方文化存不存在,地域文化肯定是有的。

吾何.wx

粗略的浏览了一下,个人所阅读的书籍中对于西方文化的解释是,东方或则东亚包括东南亚等地区对欧洲文化的统称(对西亚的书籍基本没阅读过),在欧洲俗称为希腊文明(现今的西欧包括美国是延续希腊文化),所以此文扯了这么大一段纯属吃撑了没事干(再次申明,只是拉着泛泛浏览,可能会表达错误)

  • 175176

    Most Europeans have always been poor I think that's why so many have started to rebel against the whole white privilege idea

    • 3132

      Most Europeans have always been rich.Here a suggestion for some very interesting reading: ' Jared Diamond Guns,Germs and Steel'. I thought this was an eye opener.

    • 332333

      Most Europeans have always been rich.
      Right. All those starving peasants and urban proles are just fabrications. Dickens and his ilk made it all up, as did Marx. And the misery and mass starvation of events like the 30 Years' War were just propaganda, no doubt.

    • 2627

      Right. All those starving peasants and urban proles are just fabrications.

      After the industrial revolution and compared to every other place on the planet? Yes.

      Dickens and his ilk made it all up, 

      Pretty much. Its urban poverty porn for the well to do. Again, compared to every other country on the planet, including Germany and France, the UK people are rich.

      as did Marx. 

      Oh hell yes. Marx really did pull a lot of stuff out of his bottom.

      And the misery and mass starvation of events like the 30 Years' War were just propaganda, no doubt.

      30. Years. War. Note the war bit.

  • 89

    Maybe, but neither does Christianity and yet people believe in it and therefore propagate it.

  • 653654

    "There is no such thing as western civilisation"

    We have reached peak guardian.

  • 149150

    The “recent blow” in question was the Turkish siege of Vienna in 1683.

    Um. Yes. And when did the Ottomans finally leave the European mainland? 1912. Its just that they were finally stopped in the East in the 17th Century.

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  • 580581

    I'm living and working in a place that is not the 'West'.

    Trust me, western civilisation is real and tangible, most strikingly so when it's absent.

  • 324325

    Next week an article titled "No such thing as African, Asian... civilisation" Didn't think so

    • 1516

      Some Africans are trying to do that, but the continent is too diverse, has had longer than anywhere to become diverse. As for Asian civilisation an Indian Nationalist would point out that they had an established civilisation and agriculture before the Yellow river valley did.

      The Indonesians would doubtless want to object, as would the Japanese. Nobody serious would suggest an idea of Asian Civilisation.

    • 7677

      Asian civilization? Try Eastern or Oriental civilization. Read Will Durante's " Our Oriental heritage" the first book from his bestselling series "The story of Civilization".
      Of course there's an Eastern civilization, and a Western one too. This is a ridiculous article.

  • 366367

    The fact that millions of Afghans, Pakistanis, Syrians, Iranians, Africans etc-the majority of which are muslims- are currently trying to reach Europe with dinghies prove exactly the opposite than what the article suggests: Europe signs like a beacon of tolerance and freedom to their eyes!

    • 4142

      In fairness that has more to do with job opportunities and quality of life than culture. For instance, Russia receives a great deal immigration from its former colonies in central Asia for much the same reasons, as does Turkey from the rest of the middle east.

    • 159160

      And the availability of those jobs has nothing to do with culture? Hahahahahaha!

    • 2930

      Not culture exactly, no, more to do with language. You'll find that most of the people trying to get to the UK specifically are from former British, English speaking colonies, Somalia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nigeria etc. The better your language skills, the better your chance of getting a job.

      The example of Turkey was intended to illustrate this. The legacy of the Ottoman empire means Turkish is widely spoken in the middle east, particular the Levant, and that Arabic is commonly understood in much of Turkey. This explains much of the migration there.

  • 2122

    'There is no thing as Western civilization...'

    There was once. Trump has other ideas.

  • 1213

    When our ancestors still lived in clay huts,cities like Ur in Mesopotamia had already a well working administration,including booking keeping and tax department.

  • 135136

    I see no mention of the enlightenment in the above. This is when, in the eighteenth century, church dogma began to slowly lose its grip, allowing a more critical enquiring approach. Meanwhile, the Islamic world, which had kept the torch of civilization burning during what were the dark ages for Europe, had become more dogmatic, possibly as a result of years of having to defend itself from western crusaders and others.

  • 264265

    The terms used until the 20th century were (1) Christian Civilization or Christendon or (2) Germano-Roman Civilization. Both were correct and accurate. The concept is greater than 1789.

    What the Guardian is really doing is arguing that there is no Europe to protect against swamping mass immigration, which is a euphemism for "lumpen labour pool." Behind the trendy and multicultural tinsel the Guardian is a faithful mouthpiece for the global neoliberal corporate order.

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  • 425426

    "There is no such thing as western civilisation"

    Let's put to one side for a moment that obvious truth that that sentence could never have been published in the Guardian with the word "western" replaced by, say, the words "Chinese" or "Islamic", and consider the motivations and consequences of publishing this sort of thing.

    No doubt it feels wonderfully thrilling and faux-transgressive to write, publish, and read this stuff, but let there be no doubt about it - those thrills will be paid for dearly. The left's rejection of the people and the cultures that made it possible are the reason we are now looking at a likely Trump presidency.

    • 259260

      Totally agree. The author of the Guardian piece is actually a pampered product of a civilisation he decries. Hillary got too close to such thinking and has paid the price. The Guardian is similarly out of touch. 'Who Will Guard The Guardians?' comes to mind. Wake up: is the Guardian with blue collar people of whatever race who reject elite politicians in the US and UK - or with that elite? Appiah is with the elite despite his apparently radical rhetoric. He is also in effect an apologist for the real enemies of civlisation who are currently attacking the home of democracy, free speech and gender equality with a bit more than self-hating rhetoric at this point in time. At the end of the day Appiah plays with radicalism like children playing with fire. The enemy is not 'the West': those who oppose 'the West' are.

    • 228229

      "The left's rejection of the people and the cultures that made it possible are the reason we are now looking at a likely Trump presidency."

      I agree 100%. I'm no Trump voter, but the sheer ignorant and inconsistent hubris of the contemporary left is actually proving enough to lose them the argument, no matter how bad the other side's case is. It is remarkable.

    • 206207

      Absolutelt AGREE!!! This type of article and agenda is a huge part of Brexit and Trump. I don't hate, as a general rule, but I am beginning to be so angry at the left for what they have done.

      There is and always has been a Western civilisation --- and no amount of trying to deny it, lose access to it by stopping History of Art, Classic Civ and Archaeology A'levels is going to change that BUT what it will change is whether people ever know about it or whether they are fed a false narrative.

      What is happening when spin trumps truth. All the time.

      There is no respect for truth - not here with Brexit, not here in the Guardian (likewise the Mail etc), not with our politicians, not with the bankers, not with the press.

      It is shameful.

      Utterly shameful. I have to read four papers to get even half an inkling as to the truth: the telegraph, guardian and ft and mail. When u take all the conflicting viewpoints - especially concerning Syria and how they report about the Russians and Assad and contrast the exact same actions by the UK/US with Iraq ... both to defeat ISIS you start to see a glimpse of the enormous iceberg and problem of lying that faces us.

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    • 89

      I like this game.

      Here is another fun one: sex robots can't come soon enough.

  • 1213

    Stating the known facts, since science, politics and monotheistic religions, all have their origin in ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia.

  • 6263

    Gandhi was a religious zealot and a pervert.

    I hardly think his idea of civilization would have been any better.

  • 1011

    There is no such thing as western civilisation

    Not any longer after last nights results
  • 100101

    Western culture might be a historical hodge-podge of ideas and bits and bobs nicked from here there and everywhere but through time and evolution, I think we've kinda reached a point now where certain aspects can absolutely and unreservedly be called "the best"; cultural endpoints, if you will, that although we might not have perfected (but we're getting there), probably don't need further modification. Equality for women, for instance; freedom of religion; stamping out prejudice based upon race or sexuality etc. All the good stuff.

    Any contemporary culture that struggles with these concepts or opposes them can objectively be called shite in comparison to a Western culture which has adopted them and given how large swathes of the planet still struggle with them, you can probably spare us the "we're all children of the world"schtick.

  • 1213

    Ignore the poor, the masses and the dispossessed, add an airy fairy dream, and you get fascism or totalitarianism.

    People never learn.

  • 104105

    There is no such thing as the West.
    There is no such thing as civilization.
    Gee, this is an easy game to play, isn't it?
    Next: do angels really dance, and if so, do they dance on the heads of pins?

  • 56

    Western civilisation? What a good idea. When does it start?

  • 4445

    "There is no such thing as western civilisation"

    This is only true in the same sense that "there is no such thing as race" is true. There is a technical and academic sense in which those statements are true. But the concept is a thing that exists and has an understood (if misunderstood) meaning in our culture. And you can't define it away.

    • 2829

      Stop right there.

      An anthropologist can take an unknown skull from a museum shelf and by examination, tell you whether its erstwhile owner was Caucasian, negroid or Mongolian, in a racial sense.

      Don't confuse this with the now-discredited 19th century school of thought, that one such variant or other was intrinsically superior or inferior, as demonstrated by the level and nature of cultural development in regions where that racial characteristic was predominant

  • 4849

    There is no such thing as western civilisation

    Not really sure what this article is saying but it's not that. It seems to be attacking a straw man, that civilisation itself is Western, or that civilisations are in and of themselves "civilised" in the other sense of the world.

    Did we know that a lot of classical learning returned to Europe via the Islamic world? Yes we did. Had we noticed that there was a big war in Europe a hundred years ago? Yes we had. Is the notion of "Western culture" bound up with a mythical "Western essence"? No it isn't.

    So apart from the plea for us all to embrace a "common humanity"--great idea, let's just do that--I'm not really sure what this is doing but rehearse some very tired tropes.

    • 104105

      There is no such thing as western civilisation

      Not really sure what this article is saying but it's not that

      The Guardian might do better with its appeal to support its journalism if its headline writers didn't spend their days finding ways to call so many potential readers too white, too stupid, too British, too Western, too uneducated, etc.

      There's a reason people don't subscribe and don't vote the way the Guardian wants them too. They don't like the way these institutions view them.

    • 5859

      Did we know that a lot of classical learning returned to Europe via the Islamic world? Yes we did.

      Not all that much, though. The Latin heritage had never really been lost. The Greek stuff mostly returned to western Europe during the Renaissance from the Eastern Roman Empire. The texts of ancient Greek authors hadn't been lost there, they mostly just sat unread on library shelves. Luckily copies got to Europe before the Empire fell to the Ottoman Turks. Very little of this Greek "learning" from antiquity (I put it between quotes because a lot of it was very dodgy, and belief in it hampered scientific advance in Europe for centuries) can be shown to have travelled only through intermediate translations in Arabic. There's been a tendency to exaggerate the importance of the Muslim world in this process of rediscovery for a long time now. In particular, a tendency to focus on what happened in Al-Andalus. The at least as large, and probably larger, contribution made by the Norman Kingdom of Sicily for some reason is mostly ignored. Maybe because that Kingdom was nominally Christian rather than nominally Islamic like Al-Andalus (though its rulers in both cases wisely didn't care too much about the religion of their subjects, as long as they paid their taxes).

  • 3435

    There are some valid points about people's take on identity. But all described is part of the culture. Hopefully this essay will be followed up by a fierce critic of other so called cultures so people don't get the wrong impression that this is thinly veiled 
    "white bashing"

  • 23

    Well not after today there isn't.

    • 1617

      It is a good introduction to a very complex subject but isn't it amazing that any mention of Al-Andalus in the Guardian will unexplicably stop before the Almohads?

      STOP depicting Islam as a monolitheic block!!! It is not.

    • 8283

      "Spain resisted..liberal democracy while it took off in "the East" in India and Japan...". So has 'resistence' to History in this long-winded case. Democracy didn't "take off" in Japan - it was imposed at the end of WW2 by those very same "Western powers" that defeated it. As for India, he forgets to mention something called the British Raj that ruled over it. When that rule became untenable, "Western democracy" (British) was implemented by Congress. Why no mention of African or S.American democratic roots? Could it be there was none until they also adopted Western democracy?

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    • 105106

      So... in the main story today, we read of the election of a Head of State in a nation whose political and social identity are based around statements wholly original to that nation; the Constitution, the Gettysburg Address; which has produced such statements of public ideology and faith as the Battle Hymn Of The Republic. A nation dedicated, at least in principle, to the principles of equality before the law, elective democracy and freedom of conscience, separation of religion and state. A nation on which a woman may marry who she sees fit, live as she wishes or even stand, in her own right, as leader of the public realm.

      That nation was founded, in turn, on extrapolations of schools of thought in Europe, particularly France and mostly Britain. Identifiable, unique schools of thought with no counterparts in the Islamic world, or the tribalism which still darkens African politics. A nation whose primary language is English. A nation whose public entertainments and distractions are, in large part, proscribed in the Islamic world.

      In what sense does that not constitute "Western culture"?

      Sorry, but the navel-gazing and self-defined sophistries of this article are totally unacceptable and worse, demonstrably untrue in sum - although true in detail, they are used to construct a whole which is plainly false.

    • 114115

      The values of liberty, tolerance and rational inquiry are not the birthright of a single culture. 


      Strawman. No one said it is. The challenge is to keep the ideas of "liberty, tolerance and rational inquiry" going. As I live in the present, I'll fight for that. The fight has already been lost in much of the world as theological ignorance takes hold.

      In fact, the very notion of something called ‘western culture’ is a modern invention. 


      Christendom? The Occident? The Holy Roman Empire? The loose idea rather than the tightly defined "concept" has evolved over centuries. Why is this a surprise for a historian? Try watching TV from 40 years ago and you'll barely recognize Britain.

      I really dislike this kind of interpretation of history because it's really a political position in not very well hidden disguise. It's more about the current argument encompassing identity politics, globalization and immigration. If something has no identity then it has no value and it becomes easy to manipulate.

      Sorry, but compared to the alternative we have on offer I'll take the nebulous option you don't think exists.

      So will you I think.

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    • 12

      There's no such thing as civilisation.

    • 7879

      A minor construct of that Western Culture, Dickens' Mr Bumble the Parish Beadle, offers the comment "... the Law, sir, is an ass; and the worst I would wish the Law, is that its eyes should be opened by experience"

      Perhaps anyone the Guardian wishes to publish, should first be sent to experience life first-hand in the lower levels of Islamic society, with no special privileges, for not less than one year. Let's see what they make of THAT

    • 1415

      Talk of “western culture” has had a larger implausibility to overcome. It places, at the heart of identity, all manner of exalted intellectual and artistic achievements

      exactly. the west is the right to do things differently and regardless of the sad wave of populism sweeping the west, it remains at the moment still more liberal than the rest of the world.

    • 2627

      There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

      Paul was revolutionary, our current problems with Islam has made this apparent.

      The Arab empire's expansion strangled the supply of papyrus to Europe, which did not recover until paper was introduced. The Islamic empire underperformed when you consider the unprecedented advantages that Baghdad had.

    • 34

      Well, there certainly isn't now.

    • 3738

      And now our culture is being taken away....

      Is there nothing thats ours?

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      In 1945, Europe, devastated by war and dependent upon American money, set out to rebuild itself in its own image. We now see a major political and trading block, with a high standard of living and public security, engrossed in a philosophical, social and political enterprise of a truly distinctive nature.

      In the same timeframe, the Muslim world experienced a windfall of riches on a scale unknown in human history, together with the withdrawal since 1918 of the former colonial order. Compare the result; wracked by religious and ideological division, in a chronic state of multi-sided warfare conducted by self-defined militias equipped with Toyotas, without art (proscribed for religious reasons) or industry and practicing sequestration and at times, immolation of its womenfolk.

      Is the author REALLY saying these two cultures are not readily distinguishable?

    • 132133

      and Dar al-Kufr

      A term loaded with the kind of connotations that the Guardian would not under any other circumstance tolerate on their pages.

    • 7980

      It just seems you are rambling Kwame and just stop reading half-way through.

      This article is all over the place. I disagree with your statement "very notion of something called ‘western culture’ is a modern invention" because western culture has just been redefined several times and is made up of several sub-cultures throughout history.

    • 23

      If there ever was a western civilisation its extinction began in 2016 with the election of a Entertainer In Chief to the most important job in the world

    • 34

      There is no civilisation would have been a better headline

    • 67

      As the article makes clear 
      civilisation is a process not a thing.
      It is the process of becoming more civil

    • 2627

      If there's no such thing as Western civilisation, does that make it safe to say that there's no such thing as Islamic civilisation, too?

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    • 3637

      There is such a thing as Western Civilization (Greece, Rome, Christianity) because people believe that it is so.
      China in 5000 years of history never embraced people power (as in people having a say how they are governed).
      Europe (and USA) has done so, from Ancient Greece to Roman Republic to Republic of Venice, Dutch Republic, English Parliament, US/French Revolution and so on.
      That is not a coincidence.

    • 1819

      "something called ‘western culture’ is a modern invention"

      A bit of a strawman here. I'm not sure who was arguing that the globalised 'westernization' of the planet wasn't a modern invention. And I'm still not sure after reading this article.

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      • 45

        Not any more there isn't.

      • 6162

        Someone's clearly jealous of western civilisation....

      • 126127

        Articles like this are the reason that people like TRUMP are winning elections.

        Whilst it is true that Western Civilization is not a constant and unchanging phenomenon, I don't think anybody is arguing that. Western Civilization as we understand it today can be traced back to Greco-Roman culture and over the centuries has taken ideas from the Christian Europeans who inherited the Roman Empire, Middle Eastern (and Islamic) civilizations, and in recent times the societies of the New World including North America, Latin America, Australia and New Zealand.

        Western Civilization doesn't have to be for white people, as the author seems to be suggesting. It is just a collection of ideas and traditions which is the product of societies in Europe and the Middle East.

        I wonder if a Journalist was to write a piece titled "There is no such thing as Islamic Civilization" it would get shown in the Guardian? Maybe I'm just being cynical...

        • 1314

          Read the article
          He is arguing that there is indeed no such thing as an exclusively Muslim civilisation
          "Read the article" LOL Who am I kidding? This is CiF

        • 117118

          I've read the article, Frank. It's a lesson in meandering thought free drivel. It offers no philosophical argument to bolster it's argument. It also seems to hold certain concepts of civilisation as higher, or better than others. And the use of al-kufr is the last straw. That is one of the most loaded, hate filled phrases of our time, or any time. It is vile. That the Guardian decides to publish such venomous claptrap is beyond belief.

      • 115116

        The values European humanists like to espouse belong just as easily to an African or an Asian who takes them up with enthusiasm as to a European.

        But they don't share those values, large numbers of migrants to Europe come from a religion and culture which reject those values. It is no good arguing that Islam was more tolerant and more advanced in fields like science and engineering, than Christianity, a thousand years ago.

        The world has changed, there is such a thing as Western civilisation and many of those heading to Europe do not share its values.

        • 6869

          But they don't share those values, large numbers of migrants to Europe come from a religion and culture which reject those values. It is no good arguing that Islam was more tolerant and more advanced in fields like science and engineering, than Christianity, a thousand years ago.

          Indeed, you could argue that the British Empire should be reimposed due to it's cultural, military and scientific prominence a mere 150 years ago. That's how dumb these claims of cultural equivalences over centuries actually are. the world moves on. The reason Islam fails and creates chaos in 2016 is because the ideal model isn't 7th century Arabia. We all laugh at Nigel Farage's mythical 1950s. How much more mad is it to embrace the world of 1400 years ago?

          The idea of dialectic forces shaping the world aren't new, they come from Plato. The conflict comes when you try and stick a spanner in this process. Pretending some ancient text is eternal truth is like trying to defy intellectual gravity. The result will always be failure or repression to enforce this idea of truth.

      • 89

        One of the signs of a civilised.mind is the ability to finish reading an article before criticising it
        There appear to be very few civilised minds manifesting themselves here today. Nothing new in that
        Especially today

      • 166167

        Dear Mr Appiah,

        You have misunderstood much about Western Culture and wars between Christians and Islam . For example, you obviously do not realise that the reason for the Crusades was the aggressive expansion of Islam killing Christians in the East. The Middle East was Christian before the Muslims conquered it by the way. 
        Ironically, it is the Western Civilisation that had educated you. Do not forget that.
        Sincerely,
        Madame Dellaporte

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      • 4546

        I've re-read this a few times now. I think your essential problem is your audience's understanding of civilization and culture is more nuanced than you give them credit for. Your bold, sweeping statements are only true if that audience thinks in highly contemporary and localized terms.

      • 910

        It is hilarious that most of your contributors have no idea who the author of this article is
        Look him up on Wikipedia
        He has an African name but his grandfather was a British Chancellor of the Exchequer. He was educated in UK
        He is a US citizen and teaches in New York

      • 67

        One man's west is another man's east.

      • 1617

        Interesting deconstruction of the idea of western civilisation as a unitary thing extending throughout its history.

        But it does concern me that in talking of all these historical roots and branches of an idea of a shared culture and 'civilised' thinking, I didn't see one mention of the Enlightenment.

        Yet it seems to me that that movement, or set of thoughts, starting three hundred years ago, is what most closely defines the idea of civilisation that, for want of a better word, we call western.

        Nevertheless, a good romp through the history of ideas in Europe and elsewhere.

      • 4950

        From Solon to Socrates, to Aquinas to Kant, to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Yes, there is such a thing as Western Civilization. We just like killing it.

        • 12

          The theory may have been kicked in the head but its never gone away, even where the worst is happening others are shouting' this is wring'. Where else has there developed such notions of good, of morality, Buddhism is flawed by the past sins notions.

      • 34

        Kind of you to try to cheer us all up.

      • 9495

        More historical revisionism.

        Here's a handy rule of thumb: If you measure a women's piety by the amount of her face that is covered, you're not a part of Western Civilization.

      • 45

        And President Turnip is the very pinnacle of western civilisation.

      • 7879

        This piece is inherently paradoxical. It denies the existence of Western Civilization but the arguments and attitude of the writer are firmly rooted in the very civilization he denies.

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      • 78

        The values of liberty, tolerance and rational inquiry are not the birthright of a single culture.

        Looking at the world today you wouldn't think so. How many places in the world can I visit without being persecuted for the colour of my skin or my perceived religion or my percieved nationality?

      • 1415

        Spain, in the heart of “the west,” resisted liberal democracy for two generations after it took off in India and Japan in “the east,” the home of Oriental despotism.

        Spain's first national assembly dates from 1810, and its first constitution from 1812:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Spain_(1810%E2%80%9373)

        The struggle in 19th and 20th century Spain between liberals and conservatives, monarchists and republicans, socialists and capitalists is common to all Western world.

        • 45

          In the case of Spain it was more a struggle between the fascists and socialists, with military dictatorship thrown in for good measure, which was somewhat less common.

          India and Japan managed to overcome such struggles before Spain (and before Greece and Portugal) to establish stable, democratic societies, which is a fair observation.

      • 5455

        .

        This, I hope, is a very badly edited version of his Reith Lecture. It is remarkable for an incredibly limited scope (where, for instance, is Chinese civilisation ?) and outstanding exceptions (especially the Enlightenment).

        It worries me that such limited school level analysis is from a Reith Lecture.

        Dreadful.

        .

      • 1011

        Pockets of the world- quite large pockets- seem to be going backwards. I can't claim this isn't happening in the West- I wish I could- but it's happening elsewhere, too. Religious fundamentalism, on a mass basis. So, once more, theocrats and their mobs will deem sex to be an indicator of moral decrepitude, using it as an excuse to punish, especially, of course, homosexuals. Political leaders will urge people to feel that they're so superior to those classed as criminals, that it's right that criminals should be summarily killed.

        I'll stick with "Western" culture for now, thank you. And Islam is very welcome to be a part of that in my eyes, as are all religions, as long as religious boundaries are respected.

        Now, excuse me, it's time for assembly.

        • 2122

          The driver for this is overpopulation. When resources become scarce people tend to go native and tribal.

          And no religion shouldn't be welcome because it can sell the biggest lie of all "don't worry about how bad you make things here, there will be something better in the next life".

          Writing cheques you never need to cash is cheap....

      • 56

        There is certainly a thing called Greek civilization and it's highly doubtful that the so called "westerners" and mostly ex-barbarians deserve any of it.

      • 7374

        Perhaps it is useful to remind ourselves of some of the values which western culture now supports: equality of men and women and the right of women to take part in public as well as domestic life, music, pictorial representation of humanity and God and gods, equality before a codified law and equal access to it, place and position open to all by merit and open competition (rather than nepotism and interest), monogamy, the right to chose and follow the religion of one's choice (or no religion at all) free speech and many less important tenets. These are all directly in opposition to Islamic culture and it is not meaningless to believe in and support them.

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      • 78

        What an interesting, informative and well written article! Thank You Kwame!

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      • 1718

        Please Guardian, write an article about "decolonising" science too. After the US we all need a laugh.

      • 7576

        I doubt the speaker is making any plans to move his family to China, India, Africa, The Middle East etc. Yet he makes a living out of telling us all off for daring to think there is anything good about the West.

        I would like to pay for him to give these lectures in refugee camps. He could dissuade people from trying to come to the West because it's just such an awful place.

        • 89

          Yet he makes a living out of telling us all off for daring to think there is anything good about the West.

          But he's not, is he? What he's arguing is that there is nothing essentially "Western" about Western civilization. The values themselves, that have emerged through complex cultural exchanges and refinements and all the rest of it over centuries, are nonetheless valuable. Indeed, it seems to me it is an argument against those who speak of "cultural appropriation" and "cultural imperialism". It is possible to be born in "the West" and not share these values. It is equally possible to not be born in "the West" and yet to share them.

        • 1920

          A completely pointless argument. We are were we are.

          Of course it could easily have all been different. There might have been an Arabic Renaissance instead of a European one. But that's not what happened.

          So what if there was nothing that predestined the West to have these values? What difference does it make except to historians?

      • 34

        Without the building block of Judaism there would be no Christianity or Islam as we know them. Blame the ancestors of the Israelis.

      • 2425

        There is Classical civilisation. There is Enlightenment civilisation. They can belong to anyone who embraces them. Ethnicity and geography are irrelevant: what matters is mind-set. I deplore the fac that the Classics have largely been relegated to private schools; that the arts and humanities are sneered at by Business School snf STEM obsessives, who forget that so many of the great Mediæval and Renaissance minds, from Omar Khayyam to Leonardo, were artists and scientists.

      • 5152

        Western civilisation exists, its just that this particular publication has aligned itself firmly against it.

      • 3839

        Kwame Anthony Appiah tells you all you need to know about this article and how you should interpret it.

        So from the late middle ages until now, people have thought of the best in the culture of Greece and Rome as a civilisational inheritance, passed on like a precious golden nugget, dug out of the earth by the Greeks, transferred, when the Roman empire conquered them, to Rome.

        Of course, once western culture could be a term of praise, it was bound to become a term of dispraise, too. Critics of western culture, producing a photonegative emphasising slavery, subjugation, racism, militarism, and genocide, were committed to the very same essentialism, even if they see a nugget not of gold but of arsenic.

        this article screams race and gender studies 101. Its rubbish article that's more of an opinion than anything more than britain's boring history of dealing with it's terrible history.

      • 1112

        'There is no such thing as western civilization'. Well there bloody well is now. 08/11/16

      • 2425

        Oh God, more dreary reductio at absurdum.....

      • 1819

        Like an elephant, Western culture may be hard to describe - but you know it when you're from it.

      • 56

        At this point it seems as though 'western culture' means the values espoused by people with university-level education and brought up in a society with some freedom of speech and in a (university-supported) culture which fosters critical thought, critical interest in the arts and sciences, reasoned debate, etc. More of whom are in the geographical West, but by no means exclusively. There are a lot of people in the U.K., US and continental Europe whom one might doubt have 'western' values. Witchcraft with onions is not so far off electing Mr Trump.

      • 1112

        “I am human, I think nothing human alien to me.”

        Same here, that's why I'm a misanthrope.

      • 3637

        Yes, there is, despite the globalists' failed attempts to eradicate it.

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      • 5960

        The author was born in Ghana and studied at Cambridge. And then he is claiming there is 'no Western civilisation'.

      • 5859

        Ignorant. The Arabs preserved and transmitted a tiny proportion of the Ancient Greek philosophical writings. The medieval Byzantine monks are the ones to thank.

        • 89

          The Arabs did not preserve a 'tiny proportion' - they did an enormous amount of work in the field of translation and original work of their own in the fields of philosophy and science - how do I know this? I studied this very subject for three years at a top British University - what did you do to make such an ill informed and sweeping statement? (and be honest - don't make it up).

          If you have a distaste for Arabic people on a racial or cultural basis then just say it - but don't attempt to diminish the achievements of an important civilisation in order to satisfy your own narrow prejudices.

        • 56

          But they're not white, which automatically prevents their inclusion in saving our history or culture. You skipped racism 101 class, didn't you?

        • 3536

          I studied at postgraduate level Medieval Greek literature, what you call Byzantine. Is this enough for you? I have no distaste for Arabic people, I am stating a fact. The only substantial contribution of Arab scholars in preserving concepts of the ancient Greek philosophy lies upon their comments on some aspects of Aristotle. The Arab civilisation and cultural achievements are as impressive as any other achievements of any culture at any point of the human history. Stop labeling opinions. If you ignore the ancient Greek manuscript tradition, stop screaming.

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      • 45

        This is great.

        Plato was a bit of a fascist.

        That's how we got to where we are today

      • 2627

        The Arab culture was mostly ignorant, had it not been for the Byzantine writings and architecture.

        • 45

          You mean, I presume, that they stole, borrowed or adopted culture and learning from pre-existing civilizations? So what? How would that be different from, say, the Athenians learning from the Egyptians, or the Japanese from the Chinese? It is ludicrous to claim that Arabian societies invented/discovered nothing of their own, just as it would be daft to claim that 18th (or any other) Century Europeans came up with all of their ideas from scratch.

        • 56

          You owe the Arabs and Islam a lot of our mathematical knowledge - Arabic numerals, medical knowledge - circulation of the blood, astronomy - many star names, etc, and even language - algebra, admiral, alcohol, zenith, etc...

        • 45

          You could say the same thing about Northern Europeans - they inherited much of their culture/architecture, alphabet (which originated in Lebanon - not Greece) and religion etc from Southern Europe and the Middle East.

          Plus it was the Babylonians (ancestors of the people of Iraq) who came up with key concepts like 360 degrees in a circle and the subdivision of the hour into base-60 fractions: 60 minutes in an hour and 60 seconds in a minute etc.

      • 5253

        There is no such thing as western civilisation

        The Guardian wishlist.
        • 4142

          A twisted distortion of reality. Utter Rot.

        • 89

          I'm afraid Elvis the Beatles and the Stones had more to do with Western civilisation and values then Aristotle or Plato. And as for Islam, well, I don't suppose Brown Sugar gets much air-play in Riyadh.

        • 45

          This is a very good essay - although I suppose there will always be points to debate.

          The concept of 'Western' for me is strongly associated with just what the author says - the Cold War. I have trouble with it as soon as I start thinking pre-World War One. When it comes to the Middle Ages, it becomes a purely geographical thing, and even then not that siginificant, except in the terms 'Eastern Roman Empire' and 'Western Roman Empire' (the latter being distinguished at this point through its absence more than anything).
          When I reach Rome, there is really no 'Western' anything. It's 'Roman' (a very broad term) and 'non-Roman' (from the perspective of the Empire). In early Rome, 'Roman' again is just someone who lives in the city of that name and has citizenship (two things not necessarily connected).
          There is some remnant in my mind of this weird 'Western' concept when I think 'How remarkable that so many people have adopted Western dress' or some such. Here I catch myself out using 'Western' as a synonym for 'Western European/Anglo-North American'.

          The concepts of 'culture' and 'civilisation' are tricky - I like the archaeological definition of culture on the one hand, and the all-inclusive one on the other, but cannot decide which might be better. 'Civilisation' for me means living in a settled fashion with some kind of polity, so early villages are already civilisation from my point of view.

          • 23

            It's a pity Kwame didn't explore fundamental things like our alphabet and number system, our time system (seven day week, 60 minutes in the hour, etc), none of which came from 'Western' - Greek and Roman - civilisation...

        • 4445

          Actually there is, and it's a crowning achievement of mankind and we should be very proud of it and defend it.

          • 23

            It's over. Didn't you see the news?

          • 1011

            The same news that said Hillary would win by a landslide, Brexit wouldn't happen, and Ed Miliband would win, etc.

          • 78

            No, what's over is taking Western Values and using them as an extremist way to undermine western democracies and their electorates.

            So now, it's no longer acceptable to use the Nazis treatment of certain minorities that Hitler didn't accept as even human to stop the voting majority from saying 'No thank you' to the progressive Left ideology that minorities are intrinsically unfairly treated by the Majority or that citizens born in the West have no right to decide the numbers of people from the North South and East who can move there despite the fact that the North South and East have this right and no progressive Lefties will Godwin them to death for this perfectly reasonable position.

        • 56

          In fact, the very notion of something called ‘western culture’ is a modern invention

          Cool, maybe you'll now write an article about rock'n'roll and say the same thing. Oh right, that really was the preserve of a single culture.

          “I am human, I think nothing human alien to me.” Now there’s an identity worth holding on to.

          Except that's not how you really feel about your won identity, is it?

          • 34

            Oh right, that really was the preserve of a single culture.

            Except, y'know, it isn't and wasn't. Like so may forms of popular music it has its roots in musical traditions from different parts of Africa, which were brought to the Americas. It has since been adopted by people from around the world.

          • 67

            Like so many forms of popular music it has its roots in the blending of African and Celtic musical traditions, brought together in the Deep South of the USA by poor immigrants, slaves and their descendants. It has since been adopted by people around the world.

            Fixed that for you.

        • 3839

          More self-hating and destructive nonsense. Western civilisation took centuries to build yet so-called progressives are actually regressives and destroying our civilisation.

        • 5657

          This type of crap from the left is why Hillary lost the election.

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        • 34

          There is no such thing as western civilisation

          Not anymore there's not.

        • 2526

          Let me revisit the intellectual achievements of Greece and compare them to Ghana's. Hmmmmm....

        • 4041

          Over the centuries in Britain we have burned heretics at the stake, punished blasphemy, persecuted Jews, Catholics and gays, and suppressed political speech etc

          It has taken a long time to get to what we now enjoy and believe in. Other cultures lag behind in several respects. What we do not want is regression in the name of progression, which is what we are threatened with by cultural relativism and multiculturalism. We don't want forced marriages, honour killings, suppression of criticism of religion (or indeed any religion at all beyond the watered down nonsense of the c of e), the caste system, internecine tribal warfare or the culture of corruption that has bankrupted Africa.

          Whether you call it Western culture or values matters not.

          • 23

            good for you!

            I also hope you are strongly against the culture of corruption and tax avoidance that is very popular at home, the culture of protecting celebrities even if they are pedophiles, and your hunger for warfare and illegal wars

            you see if you'd like to highlight the worst aspects of any society, it will never look good
            there are always more similarities between people that there are differences

          • 56

            Indeed. It seems to me that the way to progress is to divorce the values from the geographical/historical essentialist narrative. That sounds like pretentious wank, but what I mean is this: It is preferable for values to be weighed and adopted on merit, because they are good, than for them to be adopted because they are "Western", or for that matter "Islamic", "Confucian" etc. At some stage that requires a consensus on some basic points - inflicting pain, suffering or death is bad, for instance - but it does not require the assertion that one culture is superior to another.

        • 34

          Culture – like religion and nation and race – provides a source of identity for contemporary human beings. And, like all three, it can become a form of confinement, conceptual mistakes underwriting moral ones. 


          Err, morals. Those would be culturally, theologically, temporal and to some extent geographical constructs? There is no universality with which to benckmark your judgements.

          And does anyone actually really work in a vacuum outside of these? I'm afraid your core values are every bit as much of a social construct as everyone elses.

        • 23

          Us Greeks only had one thing (well, also the food and weather) to be happy about our country: our history, what we gave to the world, science, democracy, civilisation, Aristotle, this, that. Turns out we didn't.

        • 56

          There is such a thing as Western Culture.. it just doesn't have a monopoly on enlightenment, progress, thought etc... which it often has, mistakenly, believed it has...

        • 2526

          I've really enjoyed Kwame's Reith Lectures, but this argument is spurious. Western culture doesn't rely on Europeans as a people - which the Greeks would have seen as barbarians - it's an inheritance from Ancient Greece which was rediscovered (in Europe, with a helping hand from Islam) in the late Middle Ages, giving rise to a Western Renaissance, scientific discoveries and, finally, the Enlightenment. And it is the Enlightenment which is uniquely Western - the product of European cultures. This is why Western culture includes all those countries with largely European populations, wherever they are in the world.

          Islam also benefited from Greek culture, and it also enjoyed a Renaissance, but it didn't lead to an Enlightenment - that's the difference, not just between the West and Islam, but between the West and everywhere else. The West's superiority in technology, society and wealth has seen many of the basic tenets of Western culture adopted around the world, so that (Enlightenment) secularist societies and (Hellenic) rational inquiry into the natural world are seen as simply modern culture.

          Values aren’t a birthright: you need to keep caring about them. Living in the west, however you define it, being western, provides no guarantee that you will care about western civilisation. The values European humanists like to espouse belong just as easily to an African or an Asian who takes them up with enthusiasm as to a European. By that very logic, of course, they do not belong to a European who has not taken the trouble to understand and absorb them.

          While this is true, it shouldn't prevent us from acknowledging that these values originated in the West. I've never heard of anybody claiming ownership, on the contrary, cultures thrive by dispersing: everyone in the West wants to see secular democracies embraced worldwide, everyone wants to see other countries take up scientific enquiry. And it is this desire which is creating conflict with the proponents of conservative Islamic cultures: what we see as progress, they regard as hegemony.

          • 34

            You make some good points, but omit the fact that the prime values of the Enlightenment, toleration and rational enquiry, were present in the Islamic culture as manifested in el-Andalus. Secular democracy is a very recent concept and is far from universal in countries of 'the West'. Even the UK, which prides itself on being a cradle of democracy, has an unfair electoral system and an established religion with representatives in the upper chamber of parliament.

          • 1415

            There was one important exception to the "enlightenment, toleration and rational enquiry" which you claim "were present in the Islamic culture as manifested in el-Andalus". That was toleration of a great many supposedly false beliefs and a complete disapproval of rational inquiry into the claims to absolute truth and the right to rule of islam.
            Nor did many muslim rulers - such as the Almoravid and Almohad caliphates - score very highly on the "enlightenment, toleration and rational enquiry" counts.

        • 1011

          if that's the case why are you writing this?
          just consider the implications of that question!

        • 3132

          Interesting article attacking Western Civilisation, posted on the web page of a major news outlet on the internet, a product of Western Civilisation.

          • 45

            He wasn't attacking it at all, merely saying the concept is wrong!

            To say that our civilisation is based solely on Western values is totally wrong, denying that others - Islam, Hindus, Chinese, etc - contributed nothing...

        • 01

          It was a fascinating Reith Lecture, thanks Kwame!

          Would have loved to have been in the audience and asked him what he thought of Classics.

          I'm becoming more and more aware of how out-of-date and blinkered it is, and there are serious questions to be asked about whether it should continue to be taught.

          And to think that many of our politicians have been down that route...

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        • 34

          Well, I guess the West is now well on course to true culture and democratic 'civilisation', with the world's most powerful nation having elected the highly cultured Donald Trump as their leader for the next four years.

          • 45

            As awful as Trump is, well non western leaders like Assad, Putin, Erdogan, Mugabe, House of Saud etc etc aren't exactly an improvement. For years the Guardian told us how wonderful Charvez was in Venezuela- check out that country now ...

        • 6061

          Apparently western civilization doesn't exist but it seems half the folk from the alternatives are prepared to give their all to get here for a piece of it!

        • 6263

          Its rubbish like this that makes people vote Trump.

        • 1112

          Whether you call it western culture matters not. But ask yourself where you would choose to live, say if you were put in the witness protection programme. For me it would be Britain, Australia, Canada, Scandinavia, the rest of Western Europe, Singapore or Hong Kong. And yes, it is because I prefer the culture and values of those countries including freedom and the rule of law (note: that's why I put Hong Kong last)

          • 23

            Having carefully (more or less rightly, I'd guess) put Hong-Kong last on your list of countries where you'd prefer to live - say if you were in a witness protection programme - it does puzzle me somewhat, ancient Albion, that you have put Britain and Australia ahead of Scandinavia and Canada. It strikes me that you may be showing some chauvinism in the way you've ordered that list.

            When I look at and consider the pseudonym you've chosen for yourself, some of that puzzlement disappears.

            BTW, I don't otherwise disagree with the nations on your list, notwithstanding Herr Adolf Hitler as an exemplar of Western civilisation. And now you have Mr Donald Trump leading the militarily most powerful nation in the world for at least the next four years... Food for thought, that.

          • 12

            With Theresa May trying to force Brexit through using Royal Prerogative (why does it still exist?!), the right-wing Press funded by tax-dodging millionaires living abroad denigrating our legal system...

          • 67

            But the legal system did its job, and the judges were not swayed by the tabloid press. The appointment (started by Cameron, continued by May) of totally unqualified Lord Chancellors hasn't helped - Blair destroyed the office and therefore enabled the likes of Truss to be appointed - but still we can be pleased the judiciary applies the law fairly and away from party politics. In very few countries would this have been possible.

            I did not vote Brexit but it is ultimately a preferable problem to, say, military coups as the Philippines and others have had, machine guns in parliament as in Armenia 1999, or Erdogan'/ locking up the judges and academics in Turkey

        • 2122

          The problem is, while I do agree with the writers sentiments on the matter, the sweeping statement that there is 'no such thing as western culture' is simply untrue.

          The people resident in Europe have, from as early as Herodotus, defined themselves against other cultures, have seen themselves as separate. This was only intensified by the emergence of Christendom, which defined itself as monolithic culture in response to being surrounded by hostility and constantly fighting off the threat of invasion.

          Now, it's true to say that Europe is far more culturally connected to, say, the near east than many realise, or realised then. However, cultures are formed, to a great extent, by how groups of people view themselves and others, regardless of any historical external influences. We can see all of this at work in the embattled Islamic world of today.


          Theres also are some glaring factual omissions. For example, the translation of Greek texts into Arabic. For some reason, whenever this is mentioned by a commentator or public thinker at present, they neglect to mention that the Greek texts were in the hands of Byzantine culture, and were being translated then: they passed into the hands of Muslim scholars when Istanbul was conquered by Arab invaders, and even then it was by no means immediate, but filtered through to Muslim scholars via the christian scholars that remained in and around the city.

          There's also the oft-repeated idea that Greek knowledge was 'lost' in western Europe, which again is untrue: they were read and copied in monastic libraries, it's just that they were not readily accessible to people in the secular world.

          Al Andalusia is beautiful, of course: but the architecture is not actually 'Muslim' in origin; it originates in the art and architecture of Visigothic spain. Ironically, it went on to influence later Islamic architecture.

          As a final note, although the term 'western civilisation' is relatively new, it is pretty much interchangeable with earlier terms, such as Christendom, Europe (the concept is much older than some think), and 'the west' (which is in classical literature).

          • 12

            And a lot of 'Greek' knowledge was not Greek in origin but Babylonian, etc.

            Like the Antikythera, alphabet, time system, etc.

            And thankfully we got rid of Greek and Roman numbers - try doing some simple multiplication! - and replaced them by an Eastern system.

          • 89

            That's definitely true! Greek and Roman numbers are nightmarish.

            But that's not really all that cultural significant, I suppose. Concepts of numbers remained the same, regardless of how they were represented.

            You might know more about the other things than me. However, isn't the Antikythera mechanism slightly obscure in it's origin (besides,we don't even really know what it is)? Doesn't our alphabet come from the Phoenician alphabet, and we're not wholly sure where that came from?

            I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that culture isn't about where something originated it's about what people do with their knowledge and practices, and how people see themselves.

          • 12

            "The problem is, while I do agree with the writers sentiments on the matter, the sweeping statement that there is 'no such thing as western culture' is simply untrue" --EmKitto

            I agree with that, as I agree with a fair bit of your argument, Mr/Ms Emkitto - (except perhaps with your claim that the architecture of the old buildings of Andalusia was not "Muslim in origin"): the history of Andalusia is I believe much more complex than you make out.

            Likewise the story of the interaction of Christian and Muslim 'civilisations' and cultures over the centuries is very much more complex than can be treated in any such 'Comments column'. (BTW, I am not a Muslim).

            • 3435

              And you wonder why Trump was elected?

            • 3334

              Before Mohammad there were the foundation cultures of Greece and Rome and Byzantium which the author skips all too lightly over. The concept of Christendom seems to be considered merely a reaction to the predations of advancing Muslim armies. That essence of Islam that prevents the dar al islam from embracing Christianity, democracy etc is the Qur'an wherein the model of the perfect ie divinely conceived society is outlined. It is the hard nugget at the core of Islamic civilisation. The opposite of dar al islam (house of Islam) is dar al harb, harb meaning war. You get the picture. His view on al Andalus is rather simplistic. The Muslim rulers used available local skills but those favoured whether Christian or Jew were always reminded of their subordinate, servile position within the system. It was not cosmopolitan in the modern sense. Know your place also operated among the Ottomans and the Mughals.

            • 6263

              If a white person wrote about African culture like this article he would be considered racist,so much implicit bias in this article ,the guardian strikes again

            • 23

              Islam turned its back on Ibn Rushd (Averroes). Salman Rushdie's father, as rebellious young man, took up the name as a way of reconnecting with 'the golden age of Islamic enlightenment'. But, it was a false start.
              The West does indeed define itself by valorizing Athens over Jerusalem. Islam chose to go the other way- for excellent philosophical reasons, it must be said. Competition between Western nations and even western churches came increasingly to focus on who could produce the better scientists and logicians. This was not the case in the East or 'Global South'. Hindu India has exported plenty of miracle working 'Gurus' but, post independence, gave up any claim to equality for its indigenous philosophy or schools of logic. We do not see any first class Universities supported by Islam or Hinduism or Buddhism. By contrast, there are plenty of Catholic and Baptist and Episcopalian Colleges and Universities which are world ranked. The Vatican itself boasts a considerable pool of Scientific talent. Nothing similar can be said for non-Western religions or systems of knowledge. Take the case of Japan. You can get a first class Scientific education at a private Christian University but not at a Buddhist University. This can scarcely be because the Japanese are technologically backward nor that Buddhism is anti-rational. Rather, it must be the case, that Buddhist sects don't compete with each other by seeking to produce better Scientists whereas Mormons and Methodists do so compete. This has been the Western tradition. No doubt, there is competition within Buddhism and Islam and Hinduism and so on, but that competition is not based on excellence in Mathematics and the Natural Sciences.
              Prior to Trump's victory, it was possible to argue that it didn't matter who 'owned' Western Scientific Culture. A smart kid from anywhere was welcome to become part of it. The Muslims and Hindus and so on were welcome to emulate Japan and found secular institutions which would inculcate this 'international' scientific culture.
              However, now Trump has put Economic Nationalism back at the top of the agenda, the non-West or 'global South' must learn the lesson that the West has retained 'residuary control rights' over something it feels is its property. Access to it is not a free lunch. Indeed, it never was. There were invisible strings attached.
              Prior to Trump, we could say 'well, unequal Trade treaties are just about protecting intellectual property. It's just an accident of history that the people offering the Treaties happen to have a culture which defines intellectual property on terms favorable to themselves! This isn't a crooked deal at all!'
              Post Trump, the rug has been pulled from under our feet. In the past, it certainly looked as if Rights and Entitlements were Universal or on the road to becoming Universal. By the magic of the market, anybody could be anything. Indeed, it appeared the only no-no was to appropriate 'subaltern' culture- because it was insensitive to the struggles of vulnerable and surd communities. By contrast, a smart kid growing up in Accra or Islamabad was welcome to appropriate hegemonic Western culture because he or she could, if they studied hard and got good grades, actually go and assimilate to the target culture. Even if one didn't get the grades or have the money to emigrate, still, by the magic of the global market-place one would have an equal status as a consumer. The terms of trade, it appeared, had not been rigged in advance. 
              How wrong that view was! How complacent we have been! It seemed urgent, just a few short months ago, to ensure there were 'safe spaces' on campus because, we believed, the tide of history was against the bigots and xenophobes. Now it appears that the Academy was creating only a bolt hole for itself- disengaging with reality because it had no means to acknowledge its own complicity in the confidence trick.

            • 3031

              An activist posing as a scholar. Do not ever diminish what the WEST has achieved, socially, especially in the post WW2 era.

            • 3637

              Dodgy article when facts are used to support a opinion.I would rather live in this 'pretend civilisation' than in a muslim or Indian one.

            • 45

              That's most interesting, and I'd like to see the lecture. Notions of identity and culture are fragile and evolving over time, often in contradiction to the facts.

            • 01

              It's no secret to historians that what's usually called Western or "Latin" civilization begins with the age of Charlemagne. Look at Pirenne's _Muhammed and Charlemagne_ or Peter Brown's _World of Late Antiquity_. As for the supposed superiority of Wester civ., every baboon troop thinks it's members have the biggest, reddest, behinds, too. We all share the same virtues and vices.

            • 1516

              If Western Civilisation doesn't exist it follows that no other civilisation has existed. All cultures that call themselves civilised are the result of conquest and dominance over other cultures. I'm sure the Mongols considered themselves civilised and in some ways they were more so than some of their conquests. We look at ancient Rome and call it a civilisation but was it? Conquest, genocide and slavery were its message to the world at the time. The Inca civilisation was the result of intimidation and dominance too. The British Empire is dead and gone but it still is within recent history and is currently berated for its sins. I wonder in the future, should civilisation survive, if it too will be looked back on as a civilisation? Why not? The Aztecs are.

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            • 1213

              Surely the idea of western culture being a modern invention is because from probably the Renaissance onwards the west thought it was the only place WITH culture. Everyone else was an inferior race who could not possess culture.

              It was only in the 19th century that the west started to appreciate other cultures. So needed to distinguish the Greek philosophers from the Chinese and so on.

              As for the Gandhi quote, I always thought it ridiculous. It wasn't an Indian who invented the glasses he wore. And it wasn't a local culture that got rid of sati. But I can see he would not have said that - surely his whole movement was based on trying to get someone to see reason.

              • 45

                Not true, the west was well aware of other culture ,stealing secrets of ceramics and so on and you may call these technology but a Chinese porcelain piece is pure culture too. Ideas and influences came too, they were aware of treasures and desperately wanted greater access to them. Those explorers also knew about Africa but what they wanted to get to was the Indies with its cultural heritage as seen in its material goods.

              • 12

                If you really want to put 'Western' civilisation in its place, contrast the little Phillip's tomb (father of Alexander) with the vast Terracotta Army!

            • 89

              archeologist=archaeologist

            • 2223

              Yes, the nomenclature has evolved. Yes, the geographical borders shifted. Yes, influences have been taken from outside. Yes, some parts have not always towed the line.

              But, to claim Europe (and the other areas of the world dominated by European emigres) has no shared "culture" is patently false.

              It's obvious that therer are certain values, beliefs, musical tastes etc that are held by more people in this region than in others and vice versa.

              While it may be beneficial for these regional differences in culture to become less marked, right now I think the author is confusing what he would like to be thr cade with what actually is the case.

            • 89

              The cosmopolitan impulse that draws on our common humanity is no longer a luxury


              The threat to it should therefore be opposed, not undermined, as it is here.
            • 1011

              I agree with some of the comments that this article is largely about semantics. It's not very substantive. But to those who say there is a double speak of the title applying only to Euro-North Americans and not the rest of the world, I say otherwise. As an asian person, I decry that there is anything called an Asian civilisation. There are such massive differences between the Middle East, Iran, India and China (the major spheres of influence) that it would be stupid to say that there is an Asian civilisation as such. Having lived in Europe, I understand that the same logic too applies. People not from here often forget that Europe is as diverse a continent as any other part of the world. The eastern europeans and with their catholic or orthodox churches are incredibly different (ideologically, and therefore culturally) from the western europeans who have been weaned under the protestant reformation. And that is why one has a Poland planning to ban abortions vs. the UK with its strange hate speech laws. My point being, it is impossible to essentialize culture, identity and values. There is something to be learned from everyone. Giving it ethno-centric labels like western or oriental or african helps no one and deters many from attempting to engage with anything vastly different from themselves. Wish the author with his education was perceptive enough to write this.

              • 56

                "The eastern europeans and with their catholic or orthodox churches are incredibly different (ideologically, and therefore culturally) from the western europeans who have been weaned under the protestant reformation."- and you know apparently very little about that to make this statement. Apparent influence from "too many EU migrants in this country" behind which was campaign against Eastern Europeans.

            • 8687

              I'm betting that you prefer the comforts of Western civilisation more than those of West Africa.

            • 23

              The awful plagues and wars (which hit everywhere but mostly Europe) did much to help the west - as did its expansion into America as they dealt with the burden of overpopulation. Now all that's stopped what future for us all?

            • 23

              The world according to Herodotus. Photograph: Interfoto/Alamy/Alamy

              Why's it in German?

            • 5556

              Great, now it can stop being blamed for everything.

            • 1011

              "So from the late middle ages until now, people have thought of the best in the culture of Greece and Rome as a civilisational inheritance."

              Actually, they never stopped thinking that. Charlemagne was't the last Roman emperor. So not according to any golden nugget or essentialist theory. That some of the inheritance was not totally destroyed for some time in the part of the Hellenist and East Roman world centred around the east mediterranean, after it was overtaken by Islamic culture and rule, does not stop the area west of there being the area west from there.

            • 7677

              Oh yes there is!

              This article is liberalism signing its own obituary with its own terminal deranged hatred of anything "Western". It is ridiculous like a silly pantomime. In reality the West is doing very nicely and answering its own riddles of past error. It is a learning experience for us all.

              The noble idealistic culture does not exist and it never has. We have always been brutal. If you analyse us anthropologically it was not so long ago when we ALL were sacrificing babies to Moloch. We are violent brutes en masse who need to evolve very fast now. It is not just a game of the West being Satain and the evil empire, but the whole world of humanity evolving from the primeval darkness of unconsciousness.

              Conscious sounds for conscious people. Play the versions, Selecta!

            • 105106

              A typical "the west has no culture" essay written from someone obsessed with the Asia=Middle East perspective.
              Compare the cities of mediaeval Europe with their monastries and cathedrals against the Mongol armies of Ögedei Khan that smashed Kievan Rus' in 1237-40, or the campaigns of Khan Batu and Subutai that annihilated entire European armies before reducing the population of Eastern Europe by up to 7%. 
              In November 1240 before the Mongols came, Kiev was a thriving city and cultural centre with a population of over 50,000. By January of 1241 Kiev was a boneyard inhabited by only a few hundred people.
              The Mongols had no time for culture or education about anything other than horse riding and warfare. Temujin Khan had to be convinced not to level Beijing and turn the land into pasture for his horses (the argument that a city will provide more in taxes won the day). In their early years, the Mongols were about as nihilistic as you could imagine. Now, compare this against mediaeval Europe and re-read the headline "there is no such thing as western civilisation".

            • 3839

              “I am human, I think nothing human alien to me.”

              This is a lovely sentiment but I don't really want to live in some global cultural mean as this would mean becoming more religious, less tolerant of diversity and more violent.

            • 56

              Might it not be more correct to say that WEST and EAST are relative terms? Depends upon where you are.
              As for Europe - I thought the border was through Turkey - Turkey in Europe ( a tiny bit) and TURKEY IN ASIA ( most of it).

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              • 8081

                Not a bad effort to disavow my cultural heritage.

                While a well written article, which rightly points the early concept of the "west", stemmed from Christendom's fight to stop the spread of Islam, it completely overlooked the path the seeds of democracy have taken from Athenian Greece to Westminster.

                After WW2, the concept of the "west" was seen throught the prism of European democracies, standing against the threat to democracy...communism. Now the concept of the "west", sees European democracies, standing in contrast to dictatorships, crony communists, Islamic fundamentalism and run of the mill basket cases.

                The "western values" are primarily the birthright of Europeans, as Europes history has led us to this point. In contrast, other nations, cultures and ideologies have been led to another point.

                The author might feel a sense of belonging to these values, as he has moved to the "west", but for him to deny the concept of these values as being intrinsically European, is to deny my cultural heritage and history.

              • 6566

                I'm sorry this is nonsense.

                But if you want to say there is no such thing as "Chinese Civilization", "Indian Civilisation", "Muslim Civilisation", go right ahead. In a sense it's all a matter or words.

                We all gras the "essentialism" around concepts has certain problems, but there is no need to throw out the whole use of such concepts.

              • 1920

                Excellent piece. To see Islam as intrinsically bad you would have to focus only on the negative things that anyone related to Islam has done and ignore the good things that any Muslim has ever done. Do declare The West/Christianity/White people as more civilized you would have to ignore trans-Atlantic slavery, Amritsar, Iraq (throughout the C20th) etc.

                Be a citizen of the World. I think this is the only way 7 billion people are ever going to be able to share the planet in peace.

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              • 1314

                The values of liberty, tolerance and rational inquiry are not the birthright of a single culture.

                The traditional form of government in the continental Europe was totalitarian police state, since the 17th century. There were no traditions of democracy and freedom except Switzerland and possibly Holland. Another distinctive European tradition has always been militarism, since Rome. There is nothing to be proud of.



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