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马凯硕 重塑全球秩序:西方霸权的兴衰

已有 6 次阅读2026-7-25 17:32 |个人分类:马凯硕

马凯硕 重塑全球秩序:西方霸权的兴衰

Rebalancing the global order,the rise and fall of Western hegemony

8th July 2026
https://iai.tv/video/rebalancing-the-global-order 

主讲人

马凯硕(Kishore Mahbubani)是一位新加坡外交官和学者。作为联合国安理会前主席,他的研究着眼于亚洲重返全球中心舞台的地缘政治。

几个世纪以来,西方列强主导着全球秩序,并误以为这种局面将永久持续下去。欢迎参加由联合国安理会前主席马凯硕主讲的讲座。他认为,当前正在发生的转变并非剧变,而是历史性的重新平衡。亚洲和其他非西方社会并非“崛起”,而是回归其在世界事务中应有的地位。危险在于西方拒绝接受这一现实。西方对霸权的执着正在扭曲政策,加剧冲突。

“堪称亚洲最具影响力的思想家。”——马丁·沃尔夫

《外交》杂志大家早上好。这是我第一次参加“光是如何进入”艺术节,也是我第一次演讲。所以你们可以看出我非常紧张。不过,你们也知道,在西方,尤其是在美国人和英国人那里,演讲开始时通常会先开个玩笑。我来自亚洲,在亚洲,我们总是以玩笑开场。但实际上,这是我真诚的道歉,如果我的演讲让你们感到不舒服,我真诚地向大家道歉。问题在于,如果我的演讲没有让你们感到不舒服,没有让你们走出舒适区,你们就无法理解即将到来的世界。即将到来的世界远远超出了你们的舒适区,所以你们必须经历一些痛苦才能理解它。因此,我今天打算这样组织我的演讲,让你们一窥正在兴起的新世界。首先,我将谈谈我们如何看待西方主导世界历史的时代即将终结。西方曾有过一段辉煌的时期,两百多年来的全球统治,这固然令人兴奋,但那段时期已经结束了。

[01:53 - 03:34]

重要的是要理解它为何结束,究竟发生了什么,西方究竟做错了什么?其次,我们现在看到的是一个全新的多文明世界,其他文明正在回归。这无疑将极大地改变我们世界的格局和格局。我将重点关注中国,因为中国现在是新世界的先锋。如果你不了解中国,你就无法理解新世界的到来。对吧?接下来,我将探讨随着我们迈入这个新世界,我们可能会看到什么。我们可以预期哪些情景?我们将如何步入这个即将到来的新世界?那么,首先让我谈谈西方为何迷失了方向。我想先抛出一个略带挑衅意味的观点:从全球范围来看,西方已经变成了一个孤独的、自恋的文明,自我陶醉,沾沾自喜。正是这种自恋蒙蔽了双眼,使它们看不到自身在与世界其他地区交往中所犯的错误。

[03:35 - 04:44]

我想从1990年冷战结束说起,因为我相信你们都记得,当时西方是如何庆祝自己不费一枪一弹就战胜了苏联。西方心想,嘿,我们终于成功了。你们甚至都相信,这真是太棒了。几乎所有西方人都认为历史已经终结。万岁!我们再也不用挣扎了。我们成功了!我们登上了顶峰!我们建立了这些自由民主社会,这些社会是世界上最好的社会。我们成功了!我们做到了!你们其他人,世界其他地方的人们,你们得奋斗。我们不必奋斗。令我惊讶的是,西方很少有人知道一个数据:西方人口只占世界总人口的12%。

[04:44 - 07:00]

12%,88%的人口生活在西方之外。而西方在历史的那个时刻,在它自认为历史终结之时,疯狂地认为西方世界其他地方会成为西方的复制品。模仿你,追随你,变成像你一样的人。我相信你们都会同意,这是西方一种相当傲慢的假设。但这种傲慢主导了当时所有西方知识分子的世界观。我对此深有体会,因为历史的偶然,我在1991年和1992年在哈佛待了一年,我深受那种关于西方如何崛起并取得成功的傲慢情绪的影响。至于你们这些可怜的家伙,你们知道,习惯就好,适应就好,继续前进吧。所以,当时的傲慢之所以是一个重大的战略错误,是因为这种傲慢让西方世界在其他文明觉醒的那一刻陷入了沉睡。当世界其他地方都在觉醒时,你们却闭上了眼睛。记住,中国在1979年启动了四个现代化项目,到1989年,

1990年,中国的发展势头强劲。随后,印度也在20世纪90年代初因危机而觉醒。顺便一提,在这两个例子中,中国都经历了重大危机,并意识到“够了,是时候清醒过来,做正确的事了”。印度也经历了重大危机,并意识到“够了,是时候做正确的事了”。当然,从那以后,我们看到了中国的发展。中华文明已有4000年的历史。

[07:01 - 08:11]

中国过去40年的经济和社会发展,是中国4000年历史上最好的40年。而西方却说,这不可能。他们和我们不一样。他们不可能成功。没错,因为你认为成功就必须是自由的、民主的。所以很明显,这就是为什么我认为“历史终结”对西方来说是一场灾难。因为他们恰恰在西方刚刚苏醒之际,让西方陷入了沉睡。但西方犯下的另一个重大战略错误是,一旦他们觉得自己是第一,可以掌控世界,可以为所欲为,他们就觉得一切都万无一失了。当然,西方,或者说西方的许多人,都认为世界上最和平、最守法的文明就是西方文明。

[08:12 - 09:20]

但如果你看看数据,就会发现西方变得好战,在过去的三十多年里,他们接连卷入了一场又一场的战争。西方认为传播自由的最佳方式就是轰炸城市。轰炸是传播民主、自由主义以及世界其他地区的最佳途径。请注意,这一切是如何发生的,你们变得好战。当然,这一切始于上世纪90年代末,当时你们自认为做的是正确的事。你们试图保护前南斯拉夫人民。而你们保护人民的方式就是轰炸贝尔格莱德。顺便一提,奇怪的是,很多西方人也这么认为。西方当然总是遵守国际法。轰炸贝尔格莱德违反了国际法。

[09:21 - 10:29]

国际法对此规定得非常清楚。这是1945年西方国际法,基于联合国规则的秩序,西方国际法规定,使用武力只有在自卫或经联合国安理会授权的情况下才是正当的。轰炸贝尔格莱德并非自卫行为,也未获得联合国安理会授权,因此是非法的。有趣的是,西方总是信奉法治。我可以告诉你,当一位西方检察官在南斯拉夫问题国际刑事法庭上试图质疑轰炸贝尔格莱德是否合法时,他承受了巨大的压力。当然,很多西方人注意到了这一点,但世界其他国家也注意到了这一点。

[10:30 - 12:07]

当然,这种动辄开火的倾向并没有止步于南斯拉夫。它延续到了2003年的伊拉克战争。显然,那场战争是非法的。它并非自卫行为,也未获得联合国安理会的授权。顺便说一句,我非常清楚它没有获得联合国安理会的授权。因为我本人曾担任联合国安理会成员两年。我亲眼目睹了当时的辩论,也目睹了美国和英国如何竭力推动世界​​其他国家同意推翻萨达姆·侯赛因政权。而世界其他国家则表示,不,这不合法。另外,值得一提的是,关于伊拉克战争,有一点很有意思,那就是美国和英国的两个最亲密的朋友——法国和德国——实际上反对这场战争,并对我们和英国说,这是个错误,不要这样做,这是个错误。当然,他们的声音被完全忽略了,因为人们坚信美国传播民主的做法是正确的。顺便说一句,让我震惊的是,有时一些小故事就能反映出人们的真实想法。我原以为这种战争欲望可能仅限于新保守主义者——顺便一提,在美国,他们就被称为新保守主义者——他们始终认为美国军事干预是最佳解决方案。

[12:08 - 13:11]

但2002年,我恰好在纽约,在一家非常高级的俱乐部参加了一场精彩的午餐会。我旁边坐着一位非常成功的美国商人。我们刚坐下,费乌·文(Feiu Ving)就给我们上了酒。当服务员过来倒酒时,这位先生问他:“这是法国酒吗?”服务员回答说是的。他说:“我不喝法国酒。他们反对我们在伊拉克的战争。” 这句话让我如梦初醒。天哪,西方对战争的渴望如此根深蒂固。但正如你所知,伊拉克战争并非最后一场战争。本可以从中吸取教训。伊拉克犯下了战争罪行,与此同时,随后你干预利比亚,对吧,那也是一场重大的战争。

犯罪。

[13:12 - 14:21]

我的意思是,卡扎菲是个独裁者,这一点毋庸置疑。他确实是个独裁者。但在他的统治下,利比亚人民的生活是非洲最好的。他们有保障的收入、医疗保健、教育和和平,过着美好的生活。然后你们轰炸了卡扎菲,国家崩溃了,西方制造了一个失败国家,然后就一走了之。世界其他国家都看到了。所以,我的意思是,西方很少反思冷战结束后,你们因为如此热衷于开枪而杀害了多少人,摧毁了多少生命。但我可以告诉你们,这是一个错误,也正是这个错误让你们看不到正在发生的事情。当然,西方犯的第三个战略错误是继续试图主宰世界。

[14:22 - 15:25]

我认为西方大多数普通民众并不了解你们的领导人、你们的外交官为了维护西方对世界的控制,正在做什么,而且他们经常使用一些理论上与西方原则相悖的方法和原则。明白吗?我的意思是,比如说,你们信奉精英统治。你们认为,如果有人要被选中来领导一个组织,那他应该是最合适的人选。他的肤色(白人、黑人、亚洲人或非洲人)并不重要。即使他是最合适的人选,我们也会选择他。目前,世界上最重要的两个国际经济组织是国际货币基金组织(IMF)和世界银行。理论上,它们服务于全世界。所以,世界上任何人都有资格领导国际货币基金组织和世界银行。

[15:26 - 16:35]

我可以告诉你,在2008年金融危机最严重的时候,当西方感到非常脆弱,当美国和欧洲的人们开始思考“我们到底怎么了?”的时候,我们到底怎么了?当你们突然需要世界各国团结起来拯救世界经济时,你们在英国召开了由戈登·布朗主持的二十国集团峰会,而你们自己也出席了。从今以后,国际货币基金组织和世界银行的领导人必须择优选拔。2008年已经是18年前的事了。18年过去了。即使到了现在,要成为国际货币基金组织的总裁,你必须是欧洲人。要成为世界银行的总裁,你必须是美国人。而世界上88%的人口却没有资格领导这些世界性机构。这太不明智了,太不明智了。这些机构本应是全球性的。为什么你们坚持只有西方人才能管理它们?为什么你们说只有世界上12%的人才能管理这些世界性机构?

[16:37 - 17:44]

显然,这些都是你们领导人做出的决定。随着世界格局的改变,所有这些决定终将让你们付出代价。那么,让我们进入第二部分,谈谈新的多元文明世界,以及为什么其余88%的人,在很多方面接受了西方的统治,现在却不再接受了。当然,第一个重新崛起的强大人类文明就是中华文明。正如我之前提到的,从中国人民的角度来看,过去40年的经济社会发展是历史上最好的40年。人们可能会认为,西方当然会为此欢呼雀跃,因为中国人民正在蓬勃发展,我们应该为此庆祝。

[17:46 - 18:52]

现实是,尽管中国正在取得成功并蓬勃发展,但如果你翻阅英美媒体,阅读有关中国的报道,你会发现他们不断地将中国妖魔化为一个邪恶的共产主义政权。毫无疑问,中国是由中国共产党统治的。但中国共产党的目标并非复兴共产主义。中国共产党的目标是复兴伟大的中华文明。但正如你所知,在地缘政治中,为了证明你所做的事情是正当的,你需要做什么?

[18:52 - 20:05]

当你必须与竞争对手对抗时,你必须妖魔化竞争对手。这就是为什么美国众议院成立了一个委员会,声称该委员会负责管理美国与中国共产党之间的战略竞争。但真正的竞争并非针对中国共产党,而是针对此刻决心复兴的中华文明。令人惊讶的是,西方很少有人意识到,在人类历史的大部分时间里,中华文明的表现与西方不相上下。只是在过去的200年里,中国(顺便一提,还有印度)才落后于西方。

[20:06 - 21:47]

但这种落后只是一种反常现象。有趣的是,很多西方人都这么认为。当然,你的工作是努力在中国推广民主。你问,为什么中国人不能接受西方送给中国的这份民主大礼?中国人心存疑虑的原因是,在他们非常弱小无助的时候,你们并没有试图帮助他们。

对他们来说,民主?你们用鸦片塞满他们的嘴。你们强迫中国接受鸦片,换取茶叶。1842年,中国人吸取了一个非常深刻的教训:弱小时,西方会利用你。如今,西方强大而成功,却想把民主输出到他们。如果中国人对此毫无戒心,那才真是太不正常了。他们知道,无论如何,随着中国日益强大,西方对中国的威胁也会越来越大。因此,西方会想方设法削弱中国,而不是增强中国。

[21:49 - 22:56]

同时,为了强调这一点,我想说说推动中国重新崛起的因素。或许我应该举个例子,让你们明白世界权力格局正在发生多么剧烈的变化。顺便一提,在21世纪初的2000年,欧盟的国民生产总值是中国的七倍。七倍!如今,它们的规模大致相当。到2050年,欧盟的规模将只有中国的一半。相信我,如此重大的历史结构性转变并不常见。我们恰好生活在这样一个正在发生重大结构性转变的时代。令人惊讶的是,随着这种转变的发生,人们理所当然地会认为,欧盟在与中国对话时会更加谦逊一些。

[22:57 - 24:42]

然而,事实并非如此。欧盟领导人,例如伊丽莎白二世、莱恩和卡拉斯,竟然对中国发表如此居高临下、轻蔑的言论,这真是令人匪夷所思。我记得就在两天前,欧盟外交部长卡拉斯还称中国为“癌症”。我们必须理解,为什么西方人会对中国抱有如此态度?这背后有着更深层次的根源,还有一件事无人愿意提及,但它却是这个新世界中一个不容忽视的因素。这个因素深深埋藏在西方人的思想深处,那就是对“黄花瓣”的恐惧。你可能会说,拜托,我们如此理性,受过如此良好的教育,怎么可能受这种“黄花瓣”恐惧的困扰呢?但这种恐惧一直存在于西方文学作品中,存在于傅满洲的形象中,存在于其他各种人物身上。我这里要指出一个重要的历史事实:130年前,美国国会通过了一项法案,名为《排华法案》。

[24:43 - 25:52]

130年前,为什么?因为对“黄花瓣”的恐惧。正是由于这些因素,西方选择完全误解中国,看不到一个伟大文明正在回归其在世界上的正常地位,并由此创造一个即将到来的多元文明世界。那么,在接下来的二三十年里,当我们试图适应即将到来的新世界时,将会发生什么呢?就我看来,正如你们所知,没有人能够预知未来。好吧,我举个简单的例子,说明为什么你无法预知2月28日的未来。那是不到三个月前,美国和以色列决定轰炸伊朗。

[25:53 - 27:24]

伊朗当时完全没有防御能力,既击落不了美国飞机,也击落不了以色列飞机。我当时想,一切都结束了。伊朗会在三四天内崩溃,美国和以色列会获胜。对吧?这才是合乎逻辑、理性的预期。难道你不觉得难以置信吗?今天的结果几乎完全相反。这个原本毫无防御能力的国家,仅仅凭借自身的力量,就重塑了世界秩序。这只是一个相对弱小、缺乏防御能力的国家的一个小例子。当然,人们往往忽略了伊朗最重要的一点,而这一点对于理解即将到来的新世界至关重要。归根结底,波斯文明是世界历史上最伟大的文明之一。他们存在了短短三千年,却经历了无数次生死存亡的考验,并最终战胜了它们。低估波斯文明是一个错误。顺便说一句,因此,低估中国文明则是一个更大的错误。它们的规模完全不同。

[27:25 - 28:29]

那么,我们将走向何方?首先,一种可能的结果是,以美国为首的西方将施加最大压力,试图阻止中国的崛起。这并非我的臆想。我经常去华盛顿特区,而作为首都的华盛顿特区内部存在着严重的分裂。共和党和民主党在任何事情上都无法达成一致。但他们唯一达成共识的是:是时候阻止中国的崛起了。因此,一种很有可能出现的情况是,美国和西方将加大力度阻止中国的崛起。正如你所能想象的,这将意味着一个非常艰难的世界。而这将导致一系列后果,等等。

[28:29 - 29:33]

但我希望西方所有人都能意识到一点:与冷战时期美国成功遏制苏联不同,当时许多国家都加入了西方的遏制苏联行动,包括印度尼西亚、巴基斯坦、埃及、刚果等第三世界国家。而这一次,世界其他国家不会加入西方遏制中国的行列。所以我总是告诫我的美国朋友,三思而后行。你们阻止中国崛起的努力不会成功。尽管如此,这种极限施压至少有20%的可能性会持续下去。最有可能的情况,我认为有60%的概率,是世界将像往常一样勉强应付过去。

[29:35 - 30:52]

这种情况经常发生。我的意思是,毫无疑问,特朗普之后的美国可能会……你知道,特朗普政府最奇怪的地方在于,它对华态度强硬,但政府中最不鹰派的成员却是唐纳德·特朗普总统本人。他最近访华之行令人惊叹,他对华务实的态度令人印象深刻。事实上,他确实创造了一个更美好的世界。因此,至少在接下来的6到12个月里,由于他对华务实的政策,我们将拥有相对稳定的局面。当然,我知道在座各位从来不会承认特朗普总统的任何功劳,但你们必须承认,他的务实态度对美国、对中国、对世界,尤其是对周边国家都非常有利。顺便说一句,我来自东南亚,对我们来说,美中关系的相对稳定是件好事。当然,最后一种可能性很小,只有20%,那就是西方最终会开明,承认世界已经改变。

[30:53 - 31:15]

我们西方人已经无法再主宰世界了。为什么我们不与其他文明建立伙伴关系,尊重他们,承认他们与我们不同,承认他们永远不会像我们一样,但我们可以与他们和平共处呢?所以我希望在座的各位都能将这开明的理念传播到世界各地。非常感谢。

接下来

中国、道德与利己主义

为什么你应该忽略诺贝尔经济学奖(嘉宾:卡哈尔·莫兰)

我们过去对经济学的认知都是错误的

新世界秩序的经济学

Rebalancing the global order,the rise and fall of Western hegemony

8th July 2026
https://iai.tv/video/rebalancing-the-global-order 

The Speaker

Kishore Mahbubani is a Singaporean diplomat and scholar. A former President of the UN Security Council, his work examines the geopolitics of Asia's return to the global centre stage.

For centuries, Western powers dominated the global order and mistook that moment for permanence. Join Former President of the UN Security Council. Kishore Mahbubani, who argues the shift now underway is not upheaval but historical rebalancing. Asian and other non-Western societies are not “rising” but returning to their natural weight in world affairs. The danger lies in Western refusal to accept this reality. The West's clinging to primacy is distorting policy and fueling conflict.

"Arguably Asia's most influential thinker." - Martin Wolf

Foreign. Good morning everyone. This is my first time at the how the Light Gets in festival and my first speech. So you can see I'm very nervous. But anyway, as you know, in the west, especially in Americans and British, you start the talk, you make a joke. I come from Asia and in Asia we always begin with an But this is actually a genuine apology and I sincerely want to apologize to you all if my talk makes you feel uncomfortable. And the problem here is that if I don't make you uncomfortable and if I don't take you out of your comfort zones, you won't understand the world that's coming. The world that is coming is so far outside your comfort zones that you really got to, in a sense, suffer a bit of pain if you're going to understand it. So the way I propose to organize my remarks today is to try and give you a glimpse of the new world that's emerging. And I'll talk in the first part about how we are seeing firstly of course, the end of the era of Western domination of world history. The west has had a very good run, 200 years plus of global domination, which is fun, but that's over.
And it's important to understand why it's over, what happened, what did the west do wrong? And then the second part about basically what you're seeing is a new multi civilizational world where you're seeing the return of other civilizations. And that's of course going to change the texture and chemistry of our world significantly. And I'm going to focus, although in that section mostly on China, because China is now the leading edge of new world. And if you don't understand China, you don't understand new world is coming. Right? And then I'm going to talk about what you might see therefore as we move into this new world. What kind of scenarios can we expect? How will we stumble into this new world that's coming? So let me then begin by talking about why the west has lost its way. And I want to just begin by making a slightly provocative statement that the west has, in global terms become a lonely narcissistic civilization, self absorbed in itself, very happy with itself and therefore with this narcissism has blinded itself to the mistakes that it has made in dealing with, with the rest of the world.
And I want to begin the story in some ways with the end of the Cold War in 1990, because I mean, I'm sure you all remember how the west celebrated how happy the west was that it defeated the Soviet Union without firing a shot. And the west thought, hey, we have arrived. And you even believed, this is amazing. Almost everyone in the Best believed that you had reached the end of history. Hooray, we don't have to struggle anymore. We've made it. We made it to the top. We've achieved these liberal democratic societies, which are the best societies in the world. We succeeded. We have made it. The rest of you, the rest of the world, you got to struggle. We don't have to struggle. And one statistic that I'm surprised that so few in the west are aware of is that the west only makes up 12% of the world's population.
12%, 88% lives outside the West. And the west crazily assumed at that moment of history, when it reached the end of history, that the rest of the west would come and become replicas of the West. Copy you, follow you, and become like you. I'm sure you'll all agree that that's a somewhat arrogant assumption on the part of the west. But that arrogance dominated the worldview of all the Western intellectuals at that time. I know it so well because by an accident of history, I spent a year in Harvard in 91, 92, and I drowned in that arrogance that I could feel about how the west had arrived and succeeded. And the rest of you poor chaps, you know, get used to it, adjust to it, move on. So the reason why that arrogance at that point was a major strategic mistake, because that arrogance put the west to sleep at precisely the moment when the other civilization decided to wake up. So you close your eyes when the rest of the world was waking up. And remember, China had started its four modernizations program in 1979, and by 1989, 1990 was gaining a lot of momentum. And then India also woke up around the early 1990s as a result of crisis. By the way, in both cases, China went through major crisis and said, okay, enough is enough. Time for us to get sensible and do the right thing. India went through major crisis and said, enough is enough. Let's do the right thing. And of course, what you've seen since then, in the case of the Chinese, the Chinese civilization has been around for 4,000 years.
And the last 40 years of economic and social development in China have been the best 40 years in 4,000 years of Chinese history. And the west said, cannot be. They're not like us. They cannot be succeeding. Right, because you assume to succeed you must be liberal, democratic. So that clearly, that's why I think the end of the history moment was a disastrous moment for the West. Because they put the west to sleep at precisely the moment when the west was waking up. But there was another major strategic mistake that the west made once it felt that, okay, we are number one, we can run the world, we can do what we want to do. And of course the west, or west, many in the west believe that the most peaceful, law abiding civilization in the world is Western civilization.
But if you look at the data, the west became trigger happy and started getting involved in wars after wars, the last 30 over years. The west decided that the best way to spread liberty is to bomb cities. Bombing is the best way to spread democracy and liberalism and the rest of the world. Notice that this happened, that you had become trigger happy. Of course, it started in the late 1990s when of course you thought you were doing the right thing. You're trying to protect the people of the former Yugoslavia. And the way you do that is by bombing Belgrade. And incidentally, curiously, many in the west believe that. The west of course always abides by international law. The bombing of Belgrade was a violation of international law.
International law makes it very clear. This is Western International Law, 1945, UN rules based order, Western international law that says that use of force is justified when it's either an act of self defense or if it's authorized by the UN Security Council. The bombing of Belgrade was not an act of self defense, not authorized by the UN Security Council and therefore illegal. And it's interesting because the west always believes in the rule of law. I can tell you when a Western prosecutor at the International Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia tried just to say, should we ask the question whether the bombing of Belgrade was legal or illegal? The amount of pressure put on that prosecutor was phenomenal. Again, many in the west did notice this, but the rest of the world noticed this.
And that. Of course, that trigger happy strain didn't stop at Yugoslavia. It carried on with the Iraq war in 2003. And clearly that war was illegal. It was not an act of self defense, not authorized by UN Security Council. And by the way, I know perfectly well it wasn't authorized by the UN Security Council. Because I was a member of the UN Security Council myself personally, for two years. I watched the debates and I watched whether or not the United States and UK pushing very hard to get the rest of the world to agree that time had come to remove Saddam Hussein. The rest of the world said, no, this is not legal. And by the way, curiously, one interesting thing about the Iraq war that is worth noting and remembering is that two of the best friends of the United States and the United Kingdom, two countries called France and Germany actually opposed the war and did say to us and uk, this is a mistake, don't do this, this is a mistake. And of course they were shoved aside because there was total conviction that what the US was doing in spreading democracy was the right thing. What stunned me, by the way, sometimes the little stories that give you an indication of how people think. I thought that this desire for war was probably limited to the neocons, a tribe that's called the neocons in America, by the way, who always believed that the best solution is American military intervention.
But I happened to be in New York in 2002, attending a wonderful lunch in a very exclusive club in New York. And I was sitting next to a very successful American businessman. And as we were sat down for lunch, Feiu Ving served wine. And when the waiter came to pour wine, this gentleman asked the waiter, is this French wine? The waiter said, yes. He said, I'm not touching French wine. They're opposing our war in Iraq. That to me was a huge wake up call. Gosh, this desire for war is so deep, so entrenched in the West. But Iraq war, as you know, was not the last war. There could have been lessons learned. War crimes were committed in Iraq and at the same time, subsequently, when you intervene in Libya, right, that was also a major war crime.
I mean, Gaddafi was a dictator, let's be clear about that. There's no doubt that he was a dictator. But under him, the Libyan people had the best lives of anybody in Africa. They had guaranteed income, granted healthcare, granted education, granted peace, they led good lives. And then you bombed Gaddafi, the country collapsed, the west created a failed state and just walked away. And the rest of the world noticed. So, I mean, there's so little reflection in the west of how many people have you killed, how many lives have you destroyed by becoming so trigger happy after the end of the Cold War. But I can tell you that was a mistake that prevented you also from seeing what was happening. And of course, the third strategic mistake that the west made was to continue to try and dominate the world.
I think most ordinary citizens in the west are not aware of what your leaders, what your diplomats are trying to do in trying to preserve Western control of the world and in often using methods and principles that in theory go against Western principles. Okay? I mean, for example, you believe in meritocracy. You believe that if anyone should be chosen to run an organization, you should be the best possible person. It doesn't matter whether he's white or black or Asian or African. Doesn't matter if he's the best person, we pick him. Right now, two of the world's most important international economic organizations are the IMF and the World Bank. In theory, they serve the world. So anybody in the world should qualify to run the IMF and the World Bank.
And I can tell you at one moment when the west felt very vulnerable at the height of the 2008 financial crisis, when people in the US and Europe began to think, what's happening to us? What's happening to us? When you suddenly needed the rest of the world to come together to save the world economy, you had a G20 meeting in the UK chaired by Gordon Brown, and you sat at that meeting. From now on, the leaders of IMF and the World bank must be chosen on merit. 2008 is 18 years ago. 18 years have passed. Even now, to become the head of the imf, you must be a European. Become the head of the World bank, you must be an American. And 88% of the world's population don't qualify to run a world's institution. Now that is so unwise, so unwise. These are supposed to be global institutions. Why do you insist that only Westerners can run it? Why do you say only 12% of the world can run the world's institutions?
Clearly, these are decisions made by your leaders. And all these decisions will come to haunt you as the world changes now. So let me turn to part two and to talk about the new multi civilizational world and why the rest of the 88% who in many ways accepted Western domination, are no longer going to do so. And the first re emergence of a strong human civilization, of course, is Chinese civilization. And as I mentioned earlier, from the Chinese people's point of view, the past 40 years of economic social development have been the best 40 years of economic and social development. And one would have thought that the west would of course celebrate the fact, hey, the Chinese people are thriving, they are flourishing. We should celebrate instead.
The reality is that even though China is succeeding and thriving, if you pick up the Anglo Saxon media and read about China, you will just see the constant demonization of China as an evil communist regime running China. And there's no doubt that China is run by the Communist Party of China. But the goal of the Communist Party of China is not to revive Communism. The goal of the Chinese Communist Party is to revive the great Chinese civilization. But as you know, in geopolitics, what you need to do to justify what you have to What?
When you have to take stands against a competitor, you have to demonize the competitor. And that's why when the House of Representatives of the United States Congress set up a committee and said, this is a committee to manage the strategic competition between the United States of America and the Communist Party of China. But the real competition is not against the Communist Party of China. The real competition is with the Chinese civilization that has decided to come back at this moment. And again, what's amazing is that so few in the west are aware that Chinese civilization for most of human history has performed as well as the West. Again, it's only in the last 200 years that China, and also India, by the way, fell behind.
But that falling behind was an aberration. And it's interesting that many in the west believe that. Your job, of course, is to try and promote democracy in China. And you ask that and you say, why can't the Chinese accept this great Western gift of democracy to China? The reason the Chinese are suspicious is that when they were very weak and defenseless, you didn't try to feed democracy to them. You stuff their mouths with opium. You forced China to accept opium in return for Chinese tea. In 1842, the Chinese learned a very powerful lesson. When you are weak, the west will take advantage of you. Now that they are strong and successful, the west wants to export democracy to them. And if the Chinese are not suspicious, there will be something dramatically wrong with the Chinese. They know that whatever, that as China becomes stronger, it is perceived to be more and more as a threat to the West. And what the west will try to do is therefore try to weaken China rather than strengthen China.
And so at the same time, just to emphasize how this. What the forces that are driving this re emergence of China. And so maybe I should just give you one point of data so you understand how dramatically power is shifting in the world. By the way, in the year 2000, when the 21st century opened, the combined GNP of the European Union was seven times bigger than China. Seven times. Today they are about the same size. By 2050, the European Union will be half the size of China. Believe me, such major structural shifts of history don't happen that often. We just happen to be living at a time of major structural shifts that are happening. And remarkably, as that is happening, one would logically assume that the European Union would then learn to be a bit more modest in speaking to China.
Instead, it's for the rest of the world. It's absolutely amazing to see the leaders of the European Union, like Elizabeth, wonder Leyen, like Kaia Kallas, make these incredibly condescending dismissive remarks about China. I think just two days ago Kaya Kallas, the Foreign Minister of the European Union, called China cancer, cancer. And it's important to understand why do people behave like that in the west towards China? There are deeper roots and there's one thing that nobody wants to talk about, but which is a real factor in this new world. And this real factor is something that is deeply buried in the Western mind, the fear of the yellow pedal. Now you can say, oh come on, we are so rational and educated and we're not going to be subject to such fears of the yellow petal. But he's been around in Western literature, in Fu Manchu, in various other figures, and there's one statistic, one important historical fact I point out. 130 years ago the United States Congress passed an act and the name of the act was the Chinese Racial Exclusion Act.
130 years ago, why? Fear of the yellow petal. So as a result of all these factors, the west has decided to completely misunderstand China and not see what is emerging is just the re emergence of a great civilization returning to its normal place in the world and therefore creating the multi civilizational world that is coming. So what's going to happen over the next 20 to 30 years as we try to adjust to this new world that is coming? And as far as I see, as you guys know, no one can see the future. Okay, I mean just to give you just a simple example why you can't see The Future on February 28, that's about less than three months ago when the United States and Israel decided to bomb Iran.
Iran was completely defenseless, couldn't shoot down a single American plane, couldn't shoot down a single Israeli plane. And I thought game sat match, everything is over. Iran will collapse in three to four days and US and Israel will win. Right? That would be the logical, rational thing to anticipate. Isn't it hard to believe that the result today is almost the exact opposite? That this defenseless country, just by seizing one's traits, has now rebalanced the world order. Small example from a relatively weak defenseless country. But of course people forget the most important thing about Iran, which is important to bear in mind about this new world that's coming. At the end of the day, the Persian civilization is one of the greatest civilizations of world history. They've been around only for 3,000 years and they have suffered so many near death moments and overcame them. The mistake was to underestimate Persian civilization. And by the way, underestimating Chinese civilization, therefore, is a much, much bigger mistake. It's a different scale.
So where are we going to go? Well, number one, one possible outcome is that the west, led by the United States, will apply maximum pressure to try and stop the rise of China. This is not an illusion on my part. I go to Washington D.C. enough, and the Washington D.C. as a capital is deeply divided. The Republicans and Democrats cannot agree on anything. But the one thing they agree on. It's time to stop the rise of China. So one scenario which is quite possible is that the US and the west will step up its efforts to stop the rise of China. And that, as you can well imagine, will mean a very uncomfortable world for us. And that will lead to lots of consequences and so on and so forth.
But I hope that one note of caution that everyone in the west should be aware of is that unlike in the Cold War, when the United States carried out a successful containment policy of the Soviet Union, many countries joined the west in containing the Soviet Union. Including Third World countries like Indonesia, Pakistan, Egypt, Congo, all joined the West. This time around, the rest of the world is not going to join the west in trying to contain China. So I always tell my American friends, think twice. Your efforts to stop the rise of China are not going to succeed. But nonetheless, there's at least a 20% chance that this maximum pressure will continue. The most likely scenario, for which I give odds of 60%, is that in one way, the world will, as usual, muddle through.
That's how often happens. I mean, there's no question that the United States maybe after Trump. You know, the strange thing about the Trump administration is that the Trump administration is hawkish on China, but the least hawkish member of the Trump administration is President Donald Trump. His recent visit to China was amazing, how pragmatic he was in his behavior towards China. And he's actually created a better world. So for the next at least 6 to 12 months, we'll have relative stability thanks to his pragmatic policies towards China. And of course, I know in this room, no one ever gives President Trump credit for anything, but you have to acknowledge that his pragmatism has been very good for the US Good for China and good for the world, especially for countries in the neighborhood. By the way, I come from Southeast Asia, and for us to having relatively stable relations is good for us between US and China. And of course, the last scenario, for which I give another low probability of 20% is that the west will finally become enlightened and say, yes, let's admit it, the world has changed.
We in the west, we can no longer dominate the world. Why don't we form partnerships with other civilizations, treat them with respect, acknowledge that they are different from us, acknowledge that they will never be like us, but we can live in peace with them. So my hope is that all of you here in this room will spread the enlightened message to the rest of the world. Thank you very

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